Tarik Black Discussion: Returns To Houston (p. 37)

Discussion in 'NBA Discussion' started by JSM, Jul 19, 2015.

  1. scnottaken

    scnottaken - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2014
    Messages:
    825
    Likes Received:
    1,101
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    My bad I thought I saw his number on someone in the sl pictures.
     
  2. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    35,642
    Likes Received:
    59,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
    No worries. But be careful. Puffy's WMC thread is back and off to a good start..... :Jacksnicker:


    ;)
     
    KareemtheGreat33 likes this.
  3. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
  4. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    35,642
    Likes Received:
    59,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
    :Laugh: Well ..... they didn't give Tarik much money and this is what you get..... just a 7 second black & white vertical video. :Woozyshaq:
     
  5. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,989
    Likes Received:
    13,745
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    would've rather taken Speights for vet min.
     
  6. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    35,642
    Likes Received:
    59,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
    For a small ball center Black is a lot younger, more athletic, probably as strong, good at P&R, runs the floor a lot better and has Big soft hands. No?
     
  7. wallangong

    wallangong - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,589
    Likes Received:
    4,829
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    ew no. I've never liked his game. He can provide some spacing with his shooting, but the energy, athleticism, and hustle that Black provides off the bench will be significantly more valuable to this team.
     
    JSM, Savory Griddles and therealdeal like this.
  8. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,989
    Likes Received:
    13,745
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Black is moron on D, he gets lost on everything.
     
  9. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Oh I wouldn't want to compare defense between Black and Speights. :D

    Black is a superior player to Speights. You don't have to take my word though, Luke knew both of them and he clearly didn't push for Speights here...
     
    Toklat and JSM like this.
  10. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    35,642
    Likes Received:
    59,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
    He was playing for a moron that never played him enough to get in any groove especially with his idiot substitution patterns. Hopefully Luuke and this much better staff can start to fix that.
     
  11. wallangong

    wallangong - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,589
    Likes Received:
    4,829
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    I'm not really sure the evidence is out there to support this claim, but I'd be more than happy to look at the numbers if they exist.
     
    Toklat and alam1108 like this.
  12. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,989
    Likes Received:
    13,745
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'm not gona buy into these narratives that this coach wanted this guy and that guy...but black is not a good player. Speights has his warts but for a 1yr vet min, he'll earn more of that money than Black will for $3mill.
     
  13. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,989
    Likes Received:
    13,745
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    there were plenty of instances, even in garbage time he would lose his man in transition D, he never knew who to pickup on PnR screens which is typical of all bigs in general but more time then not when I did pay attention to him on D he seems to be floating around and not actually defending anyone until someone is already deep into the paint where they'll either get a dunk or he'll foul them.

    edit- also wanted to note, only reason Black is a C cause he has no offense at all, dude is the same sz as Randle (height wise)
     
  14. lakerfan2

    lakerfan2 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    5,220
    Likes Received:
    10,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Offline
    Draymond plays C in spurts...
     
  15. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    The narrative? It's not a narrative if it's just openly true. Luke could have fought to bring in Speights on a minimum contract and instead chose Black. I mean I'm not even saying Black is a great player, but he's better than freaking Speights. Literally the only thing Speights can do better than Tarik is shoot. That's it. He's not as good a rebounder, he's weaker in the paint, he's not a better defender. I don't understand the desire to have Speights over Tarik. I understand maybe someone like Meyers Leonard who is multi-talented, but Speights?
     
    JSM likes this.
  16. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,989
    Likes Received:
    13,745
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I dislike this signing even more now, I thought it was $3mill/yr....I still stand by point Speights @ vet min>>>>>> Black at 6mill. Both are gona be backups with limited mins. anways, so is black really 5mill better than Speights?
     
  17. tada

    tada - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2014
    Messages:
    4,467
    Likes Received:
    8,535
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yes.
     
    alam1108 likes this.
  18. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,989
    Likes Received:
    13,745
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Black best def rating was 105 playing 12 gms in Hou and his best reb avg was 6 also in limited games, Speights best def rating as a backup with gsw was 102-103 and avg. nearly 5rebs a game then as well....
     
  19. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,989
    Likes Received:
    13,745
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    that 7'3 C from the spurs just got 7mill from Det and he had some ridiculous per 36 #'s, you're telling me Black is worth 6mill?
     
  20. tada

    tada - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2014
    Messages:
    4,467
    Likes Received:
    8,535
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    And David West signed for $1.5 mil. Contenders get discounts. Apples to oranges.
     

Share This Page