Luol Deng Discussion: No #Dengdump, Rather Stretched Into Cash

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  1. Weezy

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    To be fair, in the one game he played last season he was horrible, and then banished to the bench for good. He got his chance, and he looked like some random dude from the gym. Apparently he played 56 games and averaged 26 mpg for us 2 seasons ago, but I don’t remember that at all. I must have blocked it out or something, because I’m trying to remember it and I can only get flashes of him like occasionally making a 3 or grabbing a hustle board, it’s very dream-like.
     
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    He was capable and serviceable, but didn’t stand out in any way.

    He gave us no reason to reduce young player’s time to play him, but to have your career cut short while you are still capable of playing can’t be easy.

    He wasn’t all star or elite level any longer, but he was journeyman level in my recollection. But he’s being paid like a borderline all star instead of an exception or minimum veteran level his play deserves
     
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    I remember him standing in the corner and missing wide open 3’s, while I yelled at my TV. I think we all remember that photo of the white board. It showed stats on how much time players put into working out or practicing and Deng was on the bottom of the list except for some D league guys.

    Guy may not be a locker room problem but he definitely didn’t put in the time in the gym either. He took his 18 million a year and spent it at an all you can eat buffet getting fat.
     
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    https://www.iol.co.za/sport/basketb...himself-to-lakers-in-nba-africa-game-16374170

    Then take the mother****ing buyout man. Leave! Go somewhere else! The truth is he doesn't desperately want to prove himself or he'd have taken a buyout and gotten out of here. He doesn't actually think he's got much left in the tank or he'd have gotten on the court. He was outplayed by the kids. He came into camp in bad shape. I respect the humanitarian Luol Deng, but I've lost a lot of respect for Luol Deng the NBA player.
     
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    I think there's more to it. If he accepts a buyout/waiver then that's dead money on our books. Trading 18m means we can bring up to 23m back in salary (ironically that is Kawhi's cap hit now).

    LA wants to trade him rather than stretch him...otherwise we could have done that to offer Boogie more money to keep him away from the dubs.

    Everything about how we're maneuvering feels like we're trying to get a deal done to dump him rather than waive him.

    Anyways, we're on a clock now...Aug 31st is the deadline to stretch Deng and have him applied as a 7.4m cap hit over the next 5 years. If Aug 31st comes and goes and he's still on the books, then we can still waive him, but he would count as 18m on our 2018/19 books and then apply as a 6.3m cap hit for the following 3 years starting with the 2019/20 season.
     
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    Oh please....nobody believes in you. That’s why it’s been so hard to find a team that’s willing to take on your contract. The only reason Deng thinks he can still play is because athletes are always the he last to know.

    Take a buyout and go find that team. I don’t care where it is. Just GTFO mine.
     
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    I agree, but if he gave up a significant amount to leave, we'd do that too I think. At this point his contract might actually be important for matching purposes, but we've also got a handful of one-year deals to throw around as well.

    The point is: he shouldn't play the victim card either. Magic and Rob (especially Magic) shouldn't be as open about wanting him gone, but Deng shouldn't be talking about this as if he's done his best either. We all saw the evidence of him coming in out of shape. We know he's full of crap.
     
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    Jeanine should allocate Jimbob's cut of the annual profits back onto the books to offset dengs $ :Brows:
     
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    This was the first Deng Photoshop I did. It went downhill from there.

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    Regarding the comments he made, I'm sure Rob will get word of it and hopefully that allows them to sit down and really hash this out so that everybody is happy. They're both in Africa together, so they don't have an excuse to find each other.

    But play him till you find a dump site, or proactively look for one and have him remain in a holding pattern to prevent injury. Don't have him sit till he expires cause that won't help anybody.



    If Crabbe picks up his option next summer, BK is sitting on around 50m in team salary (about 60m in cap space).

    If he doesn't pick up his option and BK doesn't pick up players with non-guaranteed deals and team options (pretty much booting everybody but Allen), BK is looking at around 20m in team salary and about 89m in cap space.

    KD is the only player (based off seasons played) to be eligible for the 35% max (38.2m)...the rest of them guys like Kyrie, Kawhi, Butler, Boogie, etc are eligible for a max of 32.7m. And the 25% max is projected to be 27.3m in year 1 of a max deal.

    You guys can do the math, but BK (if all things break their way) can create room to have 3max types on the roster next summer and can easily get KD and a 30% max guy in the mix.

    Expect these dudes to get busy this year, even attempting to trade for a disgruntled asset cause their books can allow it.

    We still got Marks's number from the Mozzy deal, don't we?

    #PlanDD
     
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    demands?

    :Kobe Snickering:

    How bout we demand 8% body fat first or you don't enter the arena?

     
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    he can demand all he wants but no team wil trade for his ancient lard a**
     
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    Is that article real? He really asked to get traded?
     
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    That's some serious twisting there. The same quotes as the previous article which, while harsh and illuminating, are not a trade demand.
     
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    I knew that s*** was click bait aholes.
     
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    Yeah, he didn’t demand a trade, he just said he can still play. He doesn’t need to demand a trade anyway, I’m pretty sure Magic has been trying to trade him since the day he got here.
     
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    That's a more fair representation of the situation, but I dont feel bad for him. He took the money, which is completely his right to do. Mitch offered him a deal and he made a business decision.

    But with that decision comes strings. Namely: you can't take the money and then get mad when the situation is clearly about the money. Get creative and find a way to leave then. The Lakers dont owe Luol anything. They've single handedly funded his last few humanitarian efforts while expecting nothing back on their return.

    None of that is to mention that he hasnt done everything he could to get on the floor. There were times last year when we were riddled with injuries that he could have helped, but we went with G league players instead because he was non-competitive and out of shape. We all saw the board.

    I'm sure this is tough for him, but he's got 72 million reasons to toe the company line. If not, give that money back and go play for someone else.
     

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