LLLLLeBron 3-5 Finals Record Without SuperTeam

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  1. puffyusaf#2

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    Holy damn.. I knew he got to the line a lot but that is crazy. Maybe it isn't that uncommon but I don't think I have ever seen someone who has done this. Harden would be nothing more than a 2nd tier star if it wasn't for the whistles.
     
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    Holy Moly that stat is insane....he's really made more free throws than FG's?!?! Ok, that is unreal.

    In that case, Stephen Curry for MVP please. I do not want LeBron getting it again just because the Cavs went on one amazing run during the season. One run doesn't equal an MVP! Ugh :(
     
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    Cavs go on a little run and have now been anointed as one of the best teams in the NBA. I stumbled on Mike Wilbon saying GS was #1 and Cavs #2 in the league. The team that is 11 games behind the #1 spot in that pathetic East is the 2nd best team in the league? At 30-20 they would be 7th in the West.

    Book Lebron getting that MVP they climb to 2nd in the East.
     
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    All part of the narrative...

    I don't call him the King, I refer to him as the Drama Queen. Maybe he'll sit out a game or two with a sore finger to add some more drama.
     
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    I'm going to be angry if he wins the MVP. That would have BS written all over it.
     
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    prepare to be angry then
     
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    I'd be much more angry if free throw queen harden wins it.
     
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    ^He at least plays in the West, a much more competitive conference than the weak EAST where LeBron dwells. THe fact that the Cavs are NOT going to have the best record in the East should be looked at as a failure. Unfortunately, it's going to be looked at as a success story and how LEBRON lifted the Cavs from being a sub par .500 ball club to "ELITE" status. And of course while this is all happening, all the east teams ahead of the Cavs sans the Hawks are struggling mightily and losing games they shouldn't lose (Bulls, Wizards namely). I'm just going to close my eyes as we watch these stupid Cavs win every game from here on out...

    Now tonight, they face a team I hate, so I wouldn't mind seeing them smash the Clippers...but then again, also wouldn't mind the Clippers busting their streak....too much momentum for the Cavs right now
     
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    Anyone remember that tear the Lakers went through in the second half of the year in 2012, led almost exclusively by Kobe, while Dwight pouted and Nash sat? Yeah, the Lakers never once got this kind of media love.
     
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    Who could forget, Kobe literally broke dragging us to the playoffs. That was possibly another case of if the MVP award was actually given for who is most valuable, just like 2006, it could have gone to Kobe.
     
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    I think people forget what two major things ESPN and Lebron did when he entered the league.

    1. The media immediately stopped slamming the Leastern conference. Yes, they still talk about how it isn't "strong" as the West but nothing like back in the day when players were discredited for playing primarily against such weak teams. Once the Lebron hype hit full stride that so-called strength of schedule didn't matter.

    2. The MVP award began to be only about the "best" player in the game and not the Most Valuable. The media used terms like "greatest ever", "no one with that size and skill", "can't be stopped", blah blah blah and it changed the minds of the fans to only think a player like Lebron was the only deserving of the MVP. Has anyone ever heard Lebron get knocked for his teammates skill levels? A couple years ago I said Tony Parker should get the MVP vote and got slammed because (and I quote) "no one is putting up numbers like Lebron." Forget that the Spurs were supposed to be nothing and yet finished #1 or #2 in the West. Nope, Lebrons #'s was the deciding factor. Oddly, that whole "look at those numbers" thing wasn't so important when Kobe carried a barely household named Laker team to the playoffs and almost beat the #1 seed basically single-handedly.

    In the end, the media wants Lebron to have it and at this rate he is a lock. Curry will be given some love but in the end Klay will be the knock used to discredit his MVP chances in my opinion.
     
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    Well yeah, Curry has the juggler knot world beater Klay Thompson to carry him to those wins. All LeBron has is 2 #1 overall draft picks and another max player. The scrubs he has to carry. . . tiny small itty bitty sarcasm.
     
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    Way to be a team leader LBJ, calling out the team's 3rd best player. I don't have a problem with Bron having a conversation with Love about the matter. I mean, we read a new story on will he/won't he regarding Love every week with speculation that changes with the wind. So if it seems he's not all in and Bron as the face of the team has an issue with that, it should be discussed. BUT it should be discussed behind closed doors and not on twitter for the whole world to read.

    Furthermore, it's coming from Bron. It's a bit of pot meet kettle scenario here. He's held the league hostage with stories of leaving the Cavs and then leaving Miami to go back home. The j****** is contradicting himself from what he told Love during the off-season when he told him to just be himself and not to dwell on fitting in. Which is it Bron? Love doesn't seem to me the type that needs to be coddled but I don't think he has the thickest of skins either. If you're trying to get him to stay, I don't think that was the best way to go about it. Running to twitter like a 13 year old to vent will lead Love to packing his bags and taking his talents elsewhere.

    And I find it laughable that Bron is now trying to blame the media for making a story out of this. YOU (not the media) posted on twitter. YOU were the one addressing Love after denying it at first. Just man up and admit what you're doing. You're too damn old to act like a kid.
     
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    LeBron James ✔ @KingJames
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    Stop trying to find a way to FIT-OUT and just FIT-IN. Be apart of something special! Just my thoughts

    5:37 PM - 8 Feb 2015

    I think it is humorous and perhaps a freudian slip that Lebron tells Kevin Love to be apart rather than to be a part of something special. Even I am annoyed by Kevin Love and he is in a team whom I hate. The message is clear, if the Cavs do badly scape goat Kevin will be forced to get the FIT-OUT of CLeveland. Interesting times. I agree this is not leadership. Why tweet when you can talk? How does this not alienate and put pressure on talent struggling to fit in? I guess if I was a King it would all make sense. Oh well, serfdom I guess.
     
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    Everyone from the media to former #3 option Bosh knew that going into this. I hope Love wasn't naive enough to think it'd go down any other way if Cleveland wasn't hoisting up the championship trophy in June. I think that third fiddle role is a bad spot for anyone to be in on that team because after the coach, the blame will fall squarely on your shoulders. If I'm a marquee player, it's a position I don't put myself in. If I'm already in it, I get out ASAP.
     
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    That's just good leadership by LeBron, calling out Love in a tweet. That's how the kiddies do it these days. :rolleyes: Seriously though, if he didn't talk to him face to face about the issue also, and that's how he got his message out, that's lame. I will give him the benefit of the doubt here though and assume he did because he's a grown man and a former champion, he can't be that lame. Then again, maybe he is, and is too much of a wuss to talk to Love directly. Still, kinda blaming him publicly, not a good look.
     
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    Whatever happens, if Love does decide to leave I sure hope he isn't coming our way.
     
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    :giggle::devil:
     
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    Is that a real quote?
     
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    ^ Yep.

    http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland...ts-on-tweets-quotes-and-coincidences-1.565348

    Here's a bit more context
    Another interesting tidbit from the piece...

    Bron doesn't know how to relate to Love. They aren't close. Bron probably sees him as an outsider and aloof. Him being introverted and keeping to himself probably rubs Bron the wrong way and fuels his idea that Love isn't all in and may walk this summer.
     

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