LeBron James Discussion: Not Returning To The Lakers

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  1. vasashi17

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    What Real said...in addition, Brook has a 34M cap hold, while Boogie has a 19M cap hold. Hypothetically speaking if we trade Clarkson/BLo for Boogie and stretched Deng next summer, LA is looking at roughly $70M in practical cap space. With Boogie's cap hold amount of $19M, LA has roughly $50M to spend. This gives us way more flexibility and maneuverability than BLo's $34M cap hold. Especially when it comes to how we handle Randle's RFA.

    If 3 stars are happy making roughly $25M per, you can get it done, at least in year 1 of their contracts. Then with opt out player options, you can back end their contracts to make up for the "sacrifice" they made in year 1 of their deals. I have no doubt, Pelinka knows how to work that angle with agents.
     
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    Oh s***. It did look a little weird.. I think the riddle might be legit lol.
     
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    :Laugh:
     
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    Why is no one making fun off the Cavs bad start?
     
    GlickenGoshDebate Tactics, Oct 30, 2017
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    What for? They're making the ECF easily. They'll win in 6 games max and face Warriors again.
     
    Kenzo, Oct 30, 2017
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    Well they did just lose to the Knicks...

    I haven't watched any games. LeBron's numbers don't seem too far off though. The last couple games have been a little underwhelming for his standards, but the first five were solid.

    That team doesn't have any chemistry at all and I'm about 99% sure LeBron has a foot out the door and the team knows it. I could see them losing in the 2nd round as LeBron has his bags packed. I'm not saying he's 100% coming here (although I believe he is), but he's definitely got his eye away from Cleveland right now.
     
    therealdeal, Oct 30, 2017
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    still think he's heading to houston, but i'd really like that not to be true.
     
    abeer3, Oct 30, 2017
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    Subtle clues that will add up in retrospect when he joins the Lakers in FA. He's definitely keeping tabs on what's going on here.
     
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    Is it possible salary cap wise if CP2 stays in Houston ?
     
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    if cp360 takes vet min n they get rid of anderson for nothing. they also have to pay capela next yr too
     
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    No not really.

    Next year if they waive their Bird Rights to Chris Paul, Clint Capela, Trevor Ariza, and the rest of their expirings they'd still have about 78 million tied up in Eric Gordon, Ryan Anderson, PJ Tucker, Hilario Nene, Chinanu Onuaku, and of course James Harden. That leaves just 23 million for LeBron and that would be without Chris Paul or Clint Capela.

    Chris Paul's cap hold is 36.9 million and Capela's is 7 million. So take those out of their 78 million and they're way over the cap with zero ability to get LeBron James unless LeBron signs for the minimum.

    If they were lucky enough to find a taker for Ryan Anderson AND they waived their rights to Chris Paul, they'd have basically just enough to sign LeBron to a max deal, but Chris Paul would have to settle for the Room Exception to return to the team. Unless they find a way to get rid of Ryan Anderson AND Eric Gordon AND nobody signs Clint Capela to an RFA deal, there's not really a way to make it work. Their way is a lot more difficult than ours and in the end probably results in a worse team. I would expect Morey to try, but seeing as how he couldn't find a buyer to move Anderson to make a Paul George deal work, I'm not sure he's going to have better luck the more time goes on.
     
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    Lots of new roster members, missing IT, taking time to gel, and I don't really care lol.
     
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    This is the second comment on that thread:

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    Ingram, Randle, Clarkson for the King
     
    KareemtheGreat33, Oct 30, 2017
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    Ingram? That's giving up too much. They're gonna lose him for nothing. If they want something, they take what we offer. See PG13 and Melo trades for comparison.
     
    John3:16, Oct 30, 2017
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    they can have ingram if they take dung too
     
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  18. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

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    LaBron is going to sign here anyways. Trading for LaBron would put a $35M cap-hold on our books. Instead trade for Boogie ($19M cap-hold) or PG13 ($20M player option) and have that extra wiggle in cap space to figure out further moves next summer.

    Also you don't trade BI till you lock up the King and his running mate. BI would only be used to bring in that 3rd star if he doesn't fit with our 2 star configuration.

    Also...

    And...its all but confirmed, LaBron will take pennies on the dollar to construct a superteam in LA next summer.

     
    vasashi17, Oct 30, 2017
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    Lebron always takes the blame? Somebody please give me one example. Ball already tok more blane this seaaon then LBJ throughout his career
     
    SamsonMiodek, Oct 31, 2017
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    I dont like the press destroying athletes, but LeBron is their golden child. WOJ wrote a couple of months ago how he was almost kicked out of team USA. His behavior was covered up...

    No way ESPN did not know what a giant douche he was.
     
    GlickenGoshDebate Tactics, Oct 31, 2017
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