Lakers - Kings- Trade Very Unlikely; Both Teams Focused On Draft

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  1. LTLakerFan

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    No to 2 and Randle. If they take Clarkson.... give us 6. Cough...who wants a hit?
     
    LTLakerFan, Jun 23, 2015
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    OK fair enough. But like you mentioned in the post above, you could see from these pictures how well Cousins and Malone got along.

    This isn't a problem with Cousins. Karl is the one that needs to GTFO to end all this mess. Please, just let us draft Okafor in peace.


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    tada, Jun 23, 2015
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    What could possibly go wrong with Byron and Boogie??
     
    LTLakerFan, Jun 23, 2015
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    Actually I'm in the minority that thinks they'd get along just fine. Byron is a hardass, but he's never dishonest with his guys. Byron is as upfront as they come which is what Boogie wants and respects. Malone isn't a great coach and neither is Byron, but they're no-nonsense guys. Throw in that Boogie fits what Byron wants to do and I think they'd really get along nicely.
     
    therealdeal, Jun 23, 2015
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    It's a problem with both. Cousins brought this on himself with his immaturity at a young age. If he was more professional, he wouldn't be chasing coaches and teams and franchises away. If Karl was more willing to play ball, he'd have the best Center in the game right now on his hands and he wouldn't be putting the team in this situation. Both parties are to blame. Also the Kings ownership for letting it get to this point.

    I agree though that it was much less stressful when we thought we were just getting Okafor and that was it. I'd much rather have Okafor, Randle, and Clarkson than Clarkson and Cousins and less cap space...
     
    therealdeal, Jun 23, 2015
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    That is a main reason why I'd rather have Randle, Clarkson, and Okafor. That is the start to a nice build, bringing on a guy like Cousins would take up a lot of our cap. Stick with this rebuild, and fill out the rest of the roster with the cap we do have.
     
    JLaker17, Jun 23, 2015
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    Sounds to me like the root of this problem is Karl.
     
    alam1108, Jun 23, 2015
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    Presumably we'd have to give up more than just the #2 pick. I'm guessing we also would give up Young, Kelly, and probably the later picks as well. We'd still have enough room to add some other pieces, but I'm just not sold...

    What's more valuable to us:
    Kobe/Cousins/Clarkson/#6 + about 16 million in cap space
    Kobe/#2/Randle/Clarkson + about 21 million in cap space?
     
    therealdeal, Jun 23, 2015
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    Yeah we obviously don't know the while story, and I'm no detective, but looking at the evidence....

    1. Cousins, ownership and management has problem with Karl

    2. Only Karl has problem with Cousins

    Uhhh, who's the villain?
     
    tada, Jun 23, 2015
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    Sacramento management.

    Cousins is a headcase, but basically across the league people believe that if Boogie was given a stable situation he'd be much more manageable. Cousins gave himself this reputation, but the Kings perpetuated it by not making the moves necessary to make it a good situation for him. If he doesn't have such a bad reputation, maybe things don't go so sour with Karl so quickly.
     
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    Karl is a problem, but can you blame him for not wanting to coach Cousins? I wouldn't want to. Malone is the only coach that has gotten through to him.

    Not sure who their ideal trade partner is. Denver is the only team I can think of with vets on the block and an early pick. Unless they work out a s&t with Monroe and Detroit (not sure SVG wants that headache though).
     
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    Denver- #2/Gay/Stauskas
    Lakers- Cousins/#6
    Sacramento- Lawson/Faried/2015 1st via Denver/#27/#34

    What do you guys think? Who loses?

    Lakers- Get Cousins AND a Top 10
    Sacramento- Gets all their veterans and a handful of picks
    Denver- Gets the #2 and #7 pick in a great draft with Gay and filler
     
    therealdeal, Jun 23, 2015
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    I'd rather have Okafor and build this team from the ground up. Let them build chemistry and grow together with a core of Clarkson, Randle, and Okafor!
     
    Snake Eyes, Jun 23, 2015
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    The #2 straight up for Cousins and the number 6? It sounds good, but I've got serious reservations about Cousins. It really depends on how high we are on Winslow, Hezonja, etc.
     
    ElginTheGreat, Jun 23, 2015
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    What do I think?? (Desperately needs a spoiler for language ... but ain't never done me one of them fancy thangs [​IMG] )



    Just joking, yeah we come out smelling good BUT I really really want Okafor and the build with the beasty young guns. We make the playoffs. Damn good start, and by end of the year FAs definitely see how attractive we are looking.
     
    LTLakerFan, Jun 23, 2015
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    I really hope this doesn't go down. I was just listening to Ruseillo on ESPN Radio and he basically trashed Cousins.
     
    Savory Griddles, Jun 23, 2015
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    Hasn't there been reports of us being really high on Clarkson and Randle? If that is the case, I can't see this happening.
     
    JLaker17, Jun 23, 2015
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    Of course, Lakers & everyone are high on them as well as Okafor. To the moon. Plus Randle and Okafor, maybe even Clarkson are alpha dogs and have the leader / winner VIBE going for them.
     
    LTLakerFan, Jun 23, 2015
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    It's one thing to be high on a guy with potential, but if there's someone whose potential was already realized then I think it's fair to make the deal.

    That being said, I can't see Mitch giving up the #2 AND Randle (let alone Clarkson) for a guy who is clearly half way out the door. There's no urgency for us to make that move. I don't care if that dude is LeBron James; if he's already on his way out why would we give up a lot just to get him? He's already on his way out! Just be patient and either he comes to you or you use your asset to pickup the kid you want at #2.
     
    therealdeal, Jun 23, 2015
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    Chris "Sources" Broussard says Karl wants the #2 pick for Cousins. Kings won't let it happen.
     
    therealdeal, Jun 23, 2015
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