Kawhi Leonard Discussion: “I’m A Snake Clipper Guy.”

I know what Magic said, but I take it as the showmanship we hope will help us land superstars. It’s great talk, but he can only control his controlables.

Magic can’t do anything if Labron all of a sudden doesn’t want a pitch meeting with him, SA refuses to trade with us unless they get to fleece us, and PG turns wus and doesn’t want OKC fans and Westbrook mad at him, and worse still... none of the three will sign until the other does.

If these narratives turn out to be true, and are the reason why no big names come here this summer, who could have predicted this, and who could have handled it differently. Magic’s honestly done everything right as far as I can tell so far.

I chalk it up to a weird lightning strike that I bet won’t strike twice next year if we aren’t successful this summer

 

Let me try and change your mind

 

I dunno whats such a big deal about Kawhi joining the Lakers or a team from east...

its not like SA is going to be a contender any time soon....they could care less.

 

You're right but 5+ years is a heck of a long period for the NBA these days.

You cannot at all predict what the landscape looks like in 5 years. I think it makes no sense to think 5+ years ahead.

San Antonio simply needs to get offers and choose the best offer for themselves without taking into consideration how the deal impacts the other team.

 

There's a simple truth to this.

If such a package existed, the Spurs would take it for that reason. There's been no super offer from any team otherwise the Spurs would pull the trigger because they'd rather send him out than help a team they see 4 times a year. So the reality is: nobody has made an offer to beat the Lakers yet, assuming the Lakers have made an offer themselves.

 

I think it's a little different. I think with George they were wildly overconfident. It's possible they were overconfident for a reason, we'll see, but this time around they seem to be playing ball. The beat writers got into a little clarification yesterday to make sure everyone understood: the Lakers haven't offered Ingram yet, but he's on the table. The reason: they don't want somebody to assume Ingram is the offer and thus beat the offer with Tatum or whatever the case may be.

With George, we've heard they never really made an offer. The way the Lakers approached George rubbed people the wrong way. I think the Lakers are being way more aggressive with Kawhi.

 

I think the implication is true, but I'm not sure the two are connected. I think the Lakers just want to do what the Lakers do and that's stack the deck in their favor.

It really comes down to what kind of offers are out there. Are we selling the farm like the Spurs have been leaking? Are we offering Ingram? Are we just touching base to see what the deal is?

I believe the Lakers are still operating under the idea that they're getting LeBron and George. I think they've been lead to believe they're in the lead and they're just trying to see if they can add Kawhi while still getting the other two. Whether that actually goes down, I'm not sure anymore. I think things could change as they get close, but I don't believe for a second that these decisions are still up in the air. I think there's a chance this falls apart, but I don't think getting Kawhi means getting LeBron or vice versa.

 

I think we could have gotten George last off-season for Russell and Randle and I'm sure people here were against the idea.

At the end of the day it's always the fans that mightily over rate their players and underrate players on other teams. But you can't always abuse the other team. It's not like they always do dumb things.

No matter how this turns out... At the end if the trade falls through people will complain and if it goes through... They'll complain about giving up too much.

 

This news with LeBron really hurts the Spurs.

Now there's the two headed combination of George and LeBron sitting there in UFA. For the Spurs, they've lost momentum and bargaining power. Now Magic can sit back and tell them "I'm confident I can get the other two without losing anything. We don't need you."

The real chink in this armor might be an outcome where George picks LA, LeBron picks LA, and then out of desperation Philly trades for Kawhi. It's possible we do the Morey thing and just say "we'll clear the room, you come on over" next summer, but that's difficult to pull off. I could definitely see Philly making a big offer on Kawhi if George/LeBron are off the table.

This is a real fluid situation, but I'm guessing now nothing happens until after George/LeBron announce their decisions.