Kawhi Leonard Discussion: “I’m A Snake Clipper Guy.”

I’ll bring the fake id’s

 

Colleague's brother is PG's maverick carter.

 

I mean as much as I’d love to execute a reasonable trade to acquire a healthy Kawhi right now and therefore lure in Bron and PG... a team like Phoenix giving up their assets for him might be the next best thing.

We move on to focusing on Lebron/PG13 this summer. Kawhi won’t re-sign with PHX so this gives us a year to confirm Kawhi’s long term health from a distance while making moves to give us a shot at him in free agency 2019.

Plus, we get to keep our young core to ideally allow them to raise their value after another year of development, and playing winning basketball along superstars that can deflect some pressure from them.

So then if we have to dump Deng next year (at which point he’s an expiring contract) we don’t have to give up too much to do it.

If I had the choice of Kawhi to Phoenix right now ... or a long drawn out process in which he has a high chance of going to Boston, I’d go with the former.

 

My apologies...I have not browsed the last few pages, so if posted already, my bad.



Seems like Spurs put out rumors like Kawhi for 1st and then the Suns said, "the hell we will!" Hahaha.

I think Kawhi's trade value is definitely .50-.75c on the $ at this point.

 

Yeah, there is absolutely no way I’m throwing out BI and Zo just to land Kawhi.

A package of IT, Crowder, Zizic and 8th is probably equal to Randle, Deng, Hart and 18 and 20 1st.

 

If Kawhi isn't, healthy, then sure, be cautious. We have to be...

 

Kyrie had 2 years left on his deal too so cavs DID have some solid leverage. Spurs like pacers last year don't have much. And knowing Spurs those f***s will possibly drag this out until the trade deadline.

Also someone mentioned Kawhi to clipps... Not buying it, he doesn't want all the focus on him, that's why he would be such a great fit here on the Lakers.

 

When IT got traded to the Cavs, he was coming off a MVP season, there wasn’t a way to know he wouldn’t continue that form. So the trade was lauded as a pretty good haul when you consider the pick and Crowder - who was also considered a great 3&D guy.

There was a great deal of people arguing IT vs Kyrie in general. So I don’t take that as a good barometer of no trade value when they were actually 3 good/great assets for Kyrie.

A trade that is the flop of that situation is PG for Oladipo and Sabonis. That was considered below value, but Oladipo broke out into an MIP and a star player that with his current trajectory could be better than PG from next year. Hard to pick that one.

What’s a healthy Kawhi worth? One blue chip prospect and one high draft pick. We don’t have a clear blue chip prospect in the eyes of the league, so it’s probably going to have to be one of Ingram and lonzo, one of hart and Kuzma and two firsts.

That’s if they’re even willing to trade with us.

 

The injury has always concerned me.

I can’t imagine the front office would make any move without doing their due diligence. We literally just got out from under that Nash deal. Gutting the team for an injured guy would probably force me to take a mental health break from the team.

 

The Nash deal wasn’t that awful in itself, it was a whole number of things:

- We traded for Chris Paul and the league had basketball reasons
- Lamar emotionally broke down and left
- We traded a bunch of assets for Dwight who left after 1 season
- Gasol left with nothing in return
- we traded for Nash who blew up in the first few games and never played again
- Kobe had a career ending injury
- Kobe signed a huge contract that became the laker’s real Achilles heel

If even one of these things don’t happen, we’re a greatly improved team. We lost 4 All Stars a 6th man of the year, all our draft picks and had no real cap space. We were deep in the wilderness with the amount of poor luck we got in a short space of time.

 

Boy that sounds pretty fabulous if he'd walk after showcasing he was healthy again in Phoenix. And in the meantime do what it takes to keep Randle as an asset and equally as importantly see how well he performs and improves his game for this year. Can always trade if they want to shake things up next summer with our own assets and flexibility if we can get Julius on a good deal for the team.

 

I find that a little difficult to believe (if you're just talking about plain old x-rays, sorry I'm a student in the medical field so there's different types of imaging for us). I think the Lakers can request additional testing if needed.

Players in the NBA draft undergo very rigorous testing (like doing MRIs, etc.): http://www.miamiherald.com/living/health-fitness/jock-doc/article156749959.html

Every team has their own personal guidelines about what is enough to "pass" the physical. I hope that our medical staff thoroughly weighs the risk vs. reward with this trade.

As an aside, our medical team recently changed to UCLA's orthopedics doctors. It's interesting seeing how finances and sponsorship plays into who takes care of sports teams.

 

My point here is that I can’t see them going after an injured guy without doing their homework based on how that deal ended up.

 

You guys have concerned me with the injury. Talk about the balloon deflating a little. We need to do our homework here and check our work twice, thrice even before we send out too many assets.

I think if this drags on past the draft it will have to be a three team deal. Man it gets tricky and some of ya'll are better at thinking up trade ideas.

 

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