Kawhi Leonard Discussion: “I’m A Snake Clipper Guy.”

n to add, watching this gm I want NO part of Vucevic

 

Good question. Kawhi? Might have cash flow problem too with the lawyers and Hallmark dropping her.

 

There is hope.

 

you mean the same hope we had when PG and his OKC team got bounced in the 1st rd last yr?

 

Completely different situations.

 

whats the difference? We all thought PG wanted to come home and play, that is the ONLY reason people have so far for tying Leonard here.

 

PG built strong relationships with Westbrook, and was upset we didn't trade for him when we had the chance. In the video I posted, it's clearly stated that Leonard has built no such relationships with anyone in the Raptors organization, and most think he is on the way out. The closer we got to July last year, the clearer it was that PG wanted to stay. I haven't seen any evidence Leonard wants to stay.

 

Leonard is close to Green and seems to have build a bond with Ibaka as well, if he Tor resigns Green that is the tie.

 

You keep stating like it's a fact that #2 and someone else gets it done with Pritchard rather than him pissed off for being put in that place by the Lakers and determined not to deal with us. At least not unless he got some kind of offer with a bunch of our best kids and the number 2. And .... that the word from Paul George at that time through the tamper channels was NOT to gut the team of the talent we had here he was still coming in the summer. Convenient for your argument though. #2 and Ingram. Sure. Source? Quote out of anywhere that says that is so? PG changed his damn mind when he got to Indy.

 

We should probably just let it go at this point. But because you insist...

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Regarding being upset with LA not trading for him, obviously he's never outright said it, but has implied it on multiple occasions, along with the media corroborating it.

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There's a lot more. I remember Paul George saying after the OKC trade he thought the lakers would make more of an effort for him.

You can pick apart these quotes or say Woj is unreliable, etc etc, but there's enough evidence out there.

Please don't ever question my credibility like that again.

 

This was all after he changed his mind. And quite possibly his story. Were you on this board with all the same unsubstantiated talk here from reports he did not want us gutted? And yeah what you said about we can question Woj all year long with his anti Lakers agenda. So yes I'm saying it's not a fact that you know for sure, pre OKC trade.

 

There was enough stuff right when he got traded to OKC saying the same thing. Feel free to go dig for that news, I'm not going to waste any more time on this.

And it's pretty clear for numerous sources and George himself he felt slighted by the lack of trade. Also, trading Ingram and/or the #2 pick would not have been "gutting" the team.

I can find articles of the Lakers receiving advice to not gut the team - but it doesn't say who was giving them that advice, whether it was George, his agent, or Kurt Rambis. I've given you pretty definitive proof we could have had George if we paid up, so, the ball is in your court.

 

Meh. Don’t see Kawhi being like George at all. Completely different personalities

 

Don't think that's how it went down. Sounds like PG was upset we didn't make the trade for him. And either way, it was a risk we took that didn't pan out.

For the record, I think in hindsight we should have given up both the #2 and Ingram for him. Pairing George on this team with LeBron would have been huge.

 

Exactly. One formed strong relationships on a playoff team. The other keeps to himself and even the Raptors FO has no idea if he likes it there or not.

 

You yourself have been perpetually underwhelmed and unimpressed with Ingram and pretty much cap what his ceiling will be. But just Ingram and #2 does it for a pissed off Pritchard?

 

It was about feeling wanted. The Thunder gave George that sense with Westbrook and co. On the flip side, he felt the Lakers didn't want him as bad because we didn't trade. There's enough stuff with George right after the trade where you already get a sense of that sentiment.