Julius Randle Discussion: MIP

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  1. RasAlgethi

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    Julius isnt put in a position to succeed. Some of it is on him but a lot of it is on Byron as well. All their doing is giving him the ball in iso situations are on the post which is not his game. They need him to get him in some rolls to the basket (but then he has to set better screens as well), movement off ball, areas where he can simply attack, which are to his strengths.
     
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    I'm up to here with seeing Julius have the ball at the high post. The Clippers are doing the same thing with Griffin. Put him on the box and let him go to work. Let him use his quickness, power, and get him close to the basket where he can be in position to get on the boards.
     
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    Yeah, I know. Just pointing out some generalities that would make him look better, but I've come to accept that it is not happening in this system. However, it should be considered when considering the next head coach.
     
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    Russell moves pretty well/instinctively off the ball, but I think he his difficulty finishing and everyone but his difficulties hitting cutters has led to him doing more standing around.

    Julius has little concept of off-ball movement unless the purpose is to catch the ball for an iso. randlerofy already eloquently detailed what needs to happen for randle, though.
     
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    Wow. Rudy Gay is wretched.
     
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    Bad coaching and he is a rookie, I expect to see some struggles to say the least.
     
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    Only slightly worse than Kobe... :(
     
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    Julius Randle knows he can get to the basket.

    Give him the ball outside the paint, watch him settle into what he loves to do. It starts with a pump fake. His eyebrows shoot up and his mouth pops open as he initiates his attack with a shimmy, a dribble and a stutter-step.

    He’s on his way.

    Startled by Randle’s sudden speed, the defender is backpedaling. Randle tucks his chin into his chest and spins toward the rim.

    Or he forcefully drives his right shoulder into the man guarding him to clear space, setting up a soft finish with his left hand.

    “He puts the ball on the floor like no other power forward in this league,” Dirk Nowitzki said, following an early-season matchup.

    Randle, the Lakers’ second-year forward, has always dominated offensively with power and strength.

    What was good enough to get him to the NBA may also be good enough to get by. While the Lakers are once again one of the worst teams in the NBA, sporting a 2-12 record while balancing 37-year-old Kobe Bryant with a stable of young talent, Randle has been a bright spot. He is averaging 11.1 points and 8.6 rebounds


    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/randle-693973-shot-lakers.html

    Good piece. Goes into some detail on Randle's jumpshot.
     
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    Which is baffling in itself, terrible.
     
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    That was my point. If you're less efficient ISO-ing than Kobe this season, you're doing amazingly bad work.
     
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    There are only 10 players who are in their second season who are averaging at least 5.5 and 4.0.

    Julius is second among them in scoring:
    Mirotic 12.0
    Randle 11.1
    Lauvergne 10.7

    Julius is first in rebounding:
    Randle 8.6
    Noel 8.4
    Powell 6.9

    Sup?
     
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    Hmmm having 2 of the top 7 ISO leaders in the league and being 2-12. Maybe just maybe there's something there.

    And our two ISO leaders have combined less points than ISO leaders #1, #3, & #4 on their own.
     
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    I'm so looking forward to next season on what our young guys can actually do hopefully on a better coach and system
     
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    Wow!
     
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    Yeah. But it seems like this has been our calling card for the last 4 years. "I can't wait until next season when _______." At some point the front office and coaching staff need to be cleaned out so we can get a different result. I can easily see the FO looking at this season and thinking, "Well, Byron had a bunch of rookies. Now that they have experience, Byron can coach them like men as opposed to boys. They will man up on their own now. Let's give him another year."

    Then 15 games into next season we'll be saying, "I can't wait until next season when _______."
     
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    Sounds like the kind of thing that happens to rookies
     
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    This piece is what excited me the most:

     
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    but but his form sucks and he's not improving...

    Keep it up young fella
     

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