Jeremy Lin Discussion 2014-2015

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  1. RasAlgethi

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    I didnt notice his defense being that bad. It's adequate. To be honest, Kobe's defense has been much worst.
     
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    Kobe has been probably our worst overall perimeter defender so far this season. Not every single night, but most nights.
     
  3. The Showtime Mamba

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    I agree and that is no slight on him, it is just Linclarity that most of us recognized even during the time of LInsanity. He has this year to show his worth as a starter. I wonder how China will vote come the All Star game, surely not at the cost of Steph Curry and Chris Paul etc?
     
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    Missed FTs in OT, damn..... that was BIG
     
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    Lin was one of the reasons we were in it. I thought he played a pretty excellent game overall. He took over the offense for a key stretch late.
     
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    He doesn't have the mentality. He'll come up big in stretches, but I still don't see starter on him. He needs to do what he did in the fourth quarter with consistency and he won't. It's been a problem of his for his whole career.

    He was going great, then suddenly he let Kobe take over and go iso ball and brick a bunch of shots in a row. Stupid. Lin needed to take the ball out of Kobe's hands and make a couple of plays for himself late.

    I like him. I want him to succeed, but I still see 6th man instead of starter.
     
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    He needs to be aggressive every game. He doesn't need to always score but him driving to the hoop opens up his teammates.
    He also needs to not pass Kobe the ball sometimes and take control himself.
     
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    You're probably correct, but I'm going to hope that he tries to overcome this part of his personality. He's 26 years old. 5th year in the league. 4th NBA team. There's a point where he has to do what he thinks is right, what the coaching staff asks of him, and not worry about anything else.
     
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    Seems like he needs a dominant big man to be able to feed off of. Ofcourse you could probably say that for a lot of other PGs but I feel essential for a one that is a not a superstar.
     
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    Seems like he needs a dominant big man to be able to feed off of. Ofcourse you could probably say that for a lot of other PGs but I feel essential for a one that is a not a superstar.
     
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    Trust me, I want that. I want him to shine and succeed because by all accounts he's a nice kid. I just don't know that I see it in him. I think he's just more suited to a bench role.
     
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    http://hoopshabit.com/2014/11/29/jeremy-lin-quietly-career-year-lakers/

    Jeremy Lin Quietly Having Career Year For Lakers
    by Michael Dunlap

    Jeremy Lin is quietly having a career year for the Los Angeles Lakers
    You probably haven’t heard much about it — because Kobe Bryant and the Los Angeles Lakers’ futility is the big story — but Jeremy Lin is quietly having a career year and signs point towards Lin’s continued improvement.

    Lin isn’t at the New York Knicks/Linsanity levels, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Lin is playing a much smarter game than he has in the past and he’s being a lot more choosy about the shots he’s taking. It’s no coincidence that he’s putting up career highs in field goal shooting (.490), 3-point shooting (.383) and effective field goal percentage (.552).

    He’s improved his midrange game over last season by leaps and bounds, as he’s improved from 3-to-10 feet (plus-4.9 percent), from 10-to-16 feet (plus-8.7) and from 16 feet to the 3-point line (plus-5.7).

    What’s most impressive (courtesy of NBA.com/stats) is that Lin is eating up his open looks. For shots over 10 feet when the defender is 4-to-6 feet away, he’s shooting 62.5 percent. When he’s truly wide open (defender more than 6 feet away), he’s shooting 50 percent. This tells me he’s doing a good job of playing off the ball as well as when he handles the ball and most importantly — he’s taking care of business when he gets the chance.

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    For the season, Lin is playing 30.5 minutes per game, with averages of 12.6 points, 2.8 rebounds, 5.3 assists and 1.1 steals. He’s doing all of this while posting a four-year low of just 8.9 attempts per game (call it the Kobe effect, if you will).
    Over Lin’s last four games, he’s playing at his season average with 30.5 minutes per game, but his production is up. Lin is averaging 16.8 points, 3.3 rebounds, 6.5 assists and 2.0 steals while shooting 56 percent from the field. Those might not be Hall-of-Fame numbers, but they’re excellent and would be welcomed by about 25 teams in the league.

    The problem is, Lin isn’t going to get the recognition he deserves while he’s on a losing Lakers squad. Although Jeremy has put up excellent numbers, the Lakers are on a four-game slide and are trapped at the bottom of the Western Conference at just 3-13.

    We’d be leaving out a key mention if we didn’t talk about Lin’s defense. Remembering that he plays on the worst defensive team in the league (30th in points allowed and defensive rating), we have to understand that Lin’s numbers aren’t going to be as good as a player on a solid defensive squad.

    Still, Lin is doing a pretty good job at ensuring his opponent isn’t performing to their usual levels. On two-point attempts, Lin is holding his opponent to 2.1 percent less than they shoot for the season. Inside 10 feet, he’s harassing them into 5.9 percent less and finally, he’s keeping them 6.1 percent below their averages inside six feet.

    In the interest of fairness, Lin is getting killed from the 3-point line (allowing 53.8 percent, 17.6 percent above opponent’s average). A big reason for that is the lack of team perimeter defense and the need for Lin and the Lakers to sag to protect the middle. That is an indictment on Lin’s defense, but it’s also indicative of a team that isn’t good enough defensively to allow Lin to cheat towards the 3-point line.

    All in all, Lin is having a terrific year, but you may not have noticed. Ideally by the end of the season, the NBA will have taken notice and Lin will continue the streak he’s on. He’s got motivation — another contract — and although his team is horrible, Lin has been that diamond in the rough.
     
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    Good stuff. Also, doing this while being taken out during some games where he's going through really good stretches and playing in a offense that is suited for 90's style basketball.
     
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    For me this season turn out to be a test year for some players to who's worth to continue with the team for next year - the real team. right now Lin is doing the job. maybe with Hill the only ones.
    great playing for him.
     
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    ^ no ED?
     
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    If this is Lin's limit, he's still better suited to the bench unless we get an elite level scorer in here. Not that Kobe isn't elite anymore, but he won't be around long and he seems to be incapable of those enormous scoring streaks that can carry a bad team.
     
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    Lin would be a great change of pace, uptempo bench PG. We'll need a legit starter though instead.
     
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    Agreed. Ideally we find another fit at PG and sign Lin back for cheap off the bench as a 6th man. He's got a lot of talent, but doesn't seem to have a natural closer gene in him. He'd be best suited next to Young and Davis off the bench. To do that though we'll need to find a PG/C in FA and the draft this summer. Not to mention make some tough decisions on who we want to pay and how much to pay them.
     
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    lin started off terribly, but has looked much better of late. I still think he's a backup, ideally. I wonder what his market will be this summer. I'd love to keep him on a nick young type deal, but no way I pay him what he currently makes (the cap hit, much less the balloon). wonder if he'd consider taking a slight discount to stay in la.

    good news for the lakers is that similar pgs have found a pretty bare FA market in recent years. ramon sessions (after la), Darren collision (after both dal and lac), and even Isaiah Thomas (last summer) are guys that reasonably expected bigger dollars and had to settle.
     
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    Quick Comparison

    October vs. November
    10.0 pts 13.1
    5.3 ast 5.1
    2.7 reb 2.8
    43.5 FG% 48.1
    33.3 3pt% 37.2
    87.5 FT% 85.4
    0.3 stl 1.4
    3.3 TO 2.6
    He really has picked it up since those first three games at least.
     
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