Gabe Vincent Discussion: Cardio To The ATL

JJ likes two things he can sometimes hit a 3, and he fights like hell when switched onto a big. For a switch heavy team that doesn't have a shutdown POA defender having a PG able to do that is valuable to some extent

That being said Gabes inability to score at the rim , off the dribble, rebound, get steals/loose balls, playmake s negating his positives awfully hard for most teams. That's why I think you have to give Thiero a trial as he could give you all that Gabe gives and some of this other stuff

 

Its crazy how coaches lock in on a guy and will just ride them.

 

That front of the Titanic super imposition of Darvin and Taurean was the BEST.



They're tearing it up this year together too.

Taurean Prince NBA

 

Yes. I liked Prince. Just overused by Ham.

 

I saw Rob was at the game.

Gabe, don't answer your door at 3 AM

 

Nice game to raise his trade value

Just in time

 

Boron and Ronnie Price

 

His first two buckets at the rim came on this road trip. That's insane.

He had a couple solid screen navigation/ defensive plays last night but he's not worth the role or salary he's occupying.

 

+1

I mean even if he's told to stay in the corner - JJ is not telling him no you absolutely cannot take advantage of an open lane, shift away from you. He just doesn't bring anything other than occasional 3's and stays tough on switches.

I love how many boards Reaves gets just anticipating where the ball is going or Smart suddenly is on the ground fighting for a loose ball. Vincent is like the opposite of that - whenever there is a loose ball or a 50-50 ball, you know Gabe will not be anywhere near it. There is no intangible benefits to playing him.

 

Nick Smith should have already taken all of cardio-Gabe’s minutes.
JJ playin favorites.

 

If we’re trying to get something for him and his expiring contract at the deadline rather than just losing his mid level spot for nothing end of season it makes sense to not just kill his value completely by not playing him. Same thing with Maxi.

 

i actually disagree here. the only reason to play them is if you hope to keep them, imo--or if they're helping you win right now. gabe's really not doing that (maxi in spurts at best). even if they play well, their trade value is still only as expiring money. nobody's trading for these guys (and giving up what we'd want in return) because they believe they're going to help them win, imo.

so yeah, if it were my choice, gabe's minutes are going to nick smith until smith proves he shouldn't be getting them--because he's already demonstrated that he should.

 

I agree. I think this idea that guys' trade value fluctuates significantly during the season isn't really true. Playing Gabe and Maxi 20 minutes a night or zero minutes a night isn't going to change anything, like you said. They're being acquired as expiring salary. Even if they played really well between now and the deadline, that's 8 weeks of data compared to their entire careers at this point. They are what they are. Same thing with Dalton. He is what he is - a 25 year old with some interesting offensive potential but a long way to go between the ears and defensively. JJ playing him 15 minutes a night during which he probably just confirms that assessment doesn't change anything.

 

he's giving us absolutely nothing. i hope jj's trust is rewarded at some point, but there's been too many games where he's not just cardio gabe but he sticks out as a weak point on the floor.