Ex-Coach Luke Walton Discussion

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  1. fabfourlakers

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    he put Lance back in for Zo for the lsat 6 minutes...bone headed move

    Maybe try Svi or Zu in the 4th? Try Beasley even? Why does he love lance so much?

    Honestly can't put this on Luke but he made some stupid decisions down the stretch
     
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    I want to see Luke with an actual group of competent assistants. We’re pretty much running with like 6-7 player development coaches.

    He can draw up his gameplan or system and have coaches that can execute it. Look back at potato head’s assistants, they would be amazing right about now.
     
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    luke gets to hand pick his assts. shouldnt that count against him as well?
     
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    It does but if I’m Magic, I’d recommend a few replacements.
     
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    You guys really wanna see Kurt, Shaw, b0ron etc. taking Luke's job?
     
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    why are they the only opt and are they even an opt?
     
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    Don't know. But im thinking that is something Magic would do if they fired Luke... or hired someone like "mama there goes that man".
    Rather roll with Luke at least till the summer.
     
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    I feel like Mark Jackson has a really strong chance at being the next guy up. Another reason I'm still not ready to completely turn on Luke.
     
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    Lance had the biggest impact (+/-) on the game at that point. I understand why, but the pieces weren’t working well together. No rhythm. No system to fall back on.
     
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    Ima recommend some changes Luke

    :Pelinka QFT:

    Or ur fired
     
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    It's funny because listening to him as a commentator during Lakers games, he sounds like someone who hasn't watched this team at all this year. I'm pretty much done with Luke now, primarily because the staff seems to be clueless on how to put BI & Zo in their proper roles, but I'd still rather have him over Mark Jackson.
     
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    I just read that article from Rondo, and he likens Luke to a more chill Doc. Said he really likes him, and Rondo isn't the type of guy to blow air up your skirt.

    I'm having difficulty reconciling how some people that matter seem to think he's the bomb and what we're seeing on the court.

    IT JUST DOESN'T MATCH
     
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    I'll say it again. Phil sees great potential in Luke as a coach. Kobe thinks he was born to coach. Now Rondo is giving his props. All three are in the Basketball genius category, so I'll tag along with them.

    Clearly Luke does not fit Magic's preference of a Riley type leader. so that's a big issue as far as his future is concerned.

    Luke has done a solid job in spite of the challenges of rebuilding everything around LeBron, the suspensions of Rondo and BI, the injuries to LeBron, Rondo and BI, and being given an unbalanced roster by the FO.

    I keep hearing the complaints about the lack of plays on offense. But again, his approach is a read and react system. It's very similar to the Triangle concept without the geometry. Players are expected to read what is happening on the floor and react to it in a team based, passing heavy attack. LeBron, Rondo, and for the most part Lonzo get it. Kuz was starting to get it. BI doesn't really get it. This kind of system has a big payoff if everyone eventually gets it, but there are going to be heavy growing pains in the process.
     
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    yeah, it's butt ugly
     
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    Agree on his commentary.

    He does let some comments fly that I think make it clear he’s angling for the job though.
     
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    yeah, magic might want to re-install byron.

    i agree with all of this. they brought luke in with an idea of how they wanted to play and have supplied him with a lot of folks that can't play that way. i'm not sure what people want. can't get blood from a stone. the lack of shooting leads to a lack of spacing and renders off-ball movement moot--gs's ball/player movement works because people are afraid of their shooters flying off screens. we don't have anyone like that.

    i think the team overachieved last year and is appropriately achieving this year. is luke the next pop or phil? no. are we going to do better soon? i highly doubt it.

    i DO think that if things don't look better by season's end, maglinka should fire some of luke's assistants in favor of some proven vet coaches, both to shore up some x's and o's and to send a message that while we like a good organizational culture, this isn't your personal fraternity. richard jefferson can't be our next assistant.

    but i'm still on management: if you don't believe in the coach's system, fire him. if you do, bring in players that work. and that's not to say flexibility doesn't matter...it does. it's why i think dantoni is intensely overrated. but you don't hire dantoni then trade for shaq (as phx did at one point). and you don't build a system on ball and player movement and then stock the roster with guys who can't hit open perimeter shots.
     
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    sounds like an O for smart players, something which we seem to lack then
     
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    :This::Pelinka QFT:
     
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    That's nice.

    Which part of the genius basketball mind of Puke Walton is responsible for trying to make BI into a PG, even though my dead blind cat could see it won't work 2 seasons ago?

    More excuses coming up?
     
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    Dell Demps? :Magic Brows:
     

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