Byron Scott Discussion 2015-16 - FIRED!!! (PAGE 172)

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  1. sirronstuff

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    Luke Walton will go down in history as the only coach ever to win Coach of the Month with no official record. We should definitely sign him lol.
     
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    Well he's not a proven failure like Boron and therefore immediately a better option but he is an unknown as far as bringing up a green group who will need to get through some tough times. I like Luke's calm demeanor, b-ball smarts, as you mentioned he's young, in tune with the players and it doesn't hurt your confidence to go 20-0 even if your team is who it is. I like coaches who lean more to the "PJ" calm and zen approach rather than the Stan VanGundy type too. But how will he be when he has to face some losses, trying to keep the players on his side, and going with his plan 100%. That's what I don't know. Problem with getting a coach experienced at bringing up a young group (like Scott Brooks for instance) is if he's available, he probably just failed somewhere.

    We also don't know what Jimbo plans to do with that 60mil cap space. My fear is he'll miss out on any real super star FA targets and overpay a bunch of role players just to avoid total failure as the '16-'17 deadline for his success approaches. I sure hope Mitch does not let him do that. It would just add to the current coach problem.
     
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    All the credit to Luke Walton is deserved. But y'all need to take a look at that roster. Our best player isn't even as good as their 5th option....Curry, Klay, Draymond, Barnes, Iggy. We have Jordan Clarkson. We lack talent but we're not as bad as our record indicates.

    Can Luke bring in an identity and a system? Probably but let's not forget this is Steve's system, not Luke's. It's like when Paul Westhead won us a ring with McKinney's system.

    The point:

    Luke is still unproven and although he should be credited he's running a system that wasn't his idea through an immensely talented team.
     
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    I'll tell you one thing I do like about Luke, you know he emphasizes team play. He's not about this "earned the right to shoot" crap, because he was a team player. Some show I was watching on ESPN the other day pointed out how even during all this winning in GS, he'll calls timeout and say to the players something like "ok we're bordering on playing selfish right now", to get them back on track and keep them in that team mindset. If he couldn't coach at all that team wouldn't be undefeated. Still have to manage a team, in the locker room, practice, and unlike B0ron, during games.
     
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    Well...if we would like experience not of the foggy time machine variety, there's Brooks and Thibodeau. Both though have been criticized for lacking in the strategy department. Mark Jackson? The thorny part of all this is that a new coach like Walton or any for that matter will need that superstar to lean on and lead when matters get dicey. Golden State has that but it took at least two years for them to have that rock in Curry. Unless a Durant comes on board or all of a sudden Randle annihilates all comers then that aspect is covered.
     
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    Agreed but Walton might come up with a variation of it to suit the players we have now. Adjust it to their strengths not place them in situations where they could fail.
     
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    Buss should have got Kevin Ollie when he could be got. Used to very young players and knows how to get them to win. Not to mention the love between Durant and him. @ 3 mill a year for 5 years with UConn he isn't going anywhere now.
     
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    Right - but so could other coaches.

    I like Walton and think he's going to be a great coach one day - I just don't know if he's ready yet. I also haven't seen a large enough sample size to warrant that he absolutely would find a system that fits us.
     
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    If the Lakers are fortunate to ink THAT star or one [maybe two?] of ours just explodes on the scene, it could be moot. The question is are we just going to settle for another middling season with a stopgap coach? If not Walton, I wouldn't mind Thibodeau. At least he's been through the wars...
     
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    On topic...I loved Scott as a player in those Showtime years. Had an attitude, brash and did not take any mess from anyone. Difficult for me to say all this bad stuff about his coaching style or lack of it.
     
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    I'd take Luke right now over Byron or a lot of the field honestly. He's undefeated and I don't really care about how good his team is. Some of our great great teams didn't have stretches like this. It's not luck/situation anymore, he's a talented coach. The defending champs were so impressed that of all their coaches they gave interim coach to HIM. Impressive.

    Not to mention we'll have a young team to grow with him as a coach. No he won't be perfect with an under-talented group, but he's shown he knows the modern NBA and how to make things function easily and smoothly. He's fostered a culture of team emphasis and unselfishness. Let him grow along with our young guys as a unit so that when we do get back on top we're looking at a group that's able to stay together for 10 years.

    Obviously I'd still greatly enjoy any other coach, but I absolutely will give Luke an opportunity once Byron is gone.
     
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    I agree. Sort of like the Brad Stevens situation in Boston
     
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    Luke would be perfect. He's exactly what we need...
     
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    Even though its not Luke's system... He can bring what he knows to our team... Seems like a simple offense with tons of movement... Not like Byrons... No movement, confusion and not catering to the talent we have...
     
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    Bingo.
     
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    So I never disagreed that he was a good coach or suggested that the team's talent is the main reason why they're successful. Laker fans more than anyone know the value of a good coach. Luke absolutely is a good coach.

    But you saying that he's fostered a culture is far-fetched IMO. He really hasn't - that team's identity was built last year. Now replicating that success and actually getting better this year - Luke definitely is a big part of that and he deserves credit for it. I think he is a great coach and will get better. What I don't know is if he's ready to take his own gig yet.
     
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    It's really tough to judge until Luke coaches a different team and roster ...

    Gentry , for instance , is a disaster in NO regardless of the team injuries playing lineups who make little sense ..

    I agree Luke would our the best choice though .

    Last thing , a big no no to coaches coming from college ... They basically need to learn a new sport and suck , Brad Stevens put aside
     
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    ^ i wouldn't mind Ollie coming over.
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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    All aboard the Luke Walton Train!
     
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