Byron Scott Discussion 2015-16 - FIRED!!! (PAGE 172)

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  1. Kenzo

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    I'll add one more thing. As it stands right now, it's either Boron... or Hibbert. I don't think Roy will sign up for more of this s***. If any of us here, tried to come up with the most r******* rotations possible, we still couldn't hold a candle to Boron. Guy is seriously insane.
     
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    I actually went to his basketball camp as a kid back in 88. Now I just want him as far away from this team as possible.
     
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    Yep huge difference of culture ... which is a clear inconvenient in this case .

    Lakers can be horrible for 10 years+ ... Fans AND medias will do nothing about it ...

    I mean ....

     
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    W.T.F? Emplay has lost it. That garbage is inexcusable. According to him, B0ron had success in NJ and New Orleans, and Cleveland was rebuilding so that was a fluke. I think I may be unfollowing Pincus, this company line crap is not informative, it's sad.
     
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    No. That pick is irrelevant. It's not going to the Lakers. The Lakers need to win winnable games, and Byron is the main obstacle to that right now. He either gets his head out of his behind, or he quits. I'm not missing something, am I?
     
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    Emplay doesn't hold Scott accountable for much of anything as of late. He's definitely plummeted on my list guys to read and I will probably unfollow him soon if this keeps up.

    It's one thing to not bash Byron 24/7. It's another to just be willfully blind and ignore what's happening on the floor.
     
    ElginTheGreat, Nov 23, 2015
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    As I said earlier.... kids to feed.
     
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    If emplay is implying the top 3 pick is the reason Scott should not be let go... I'm sorry, but Madsen as interim or even Player Coach Bean the rest of the way will give us a better shot at it. Then hiring a BETTER coach next season is more logical.

    I don't know how he cannot see it. He's closer to the action that most of us are. I don't get how you cannot see the rotations are awful. The mind games and the insistence on not modernizing his coaching ways are what's bringing whatever growth we have down. Not just as a team but as individuals. I've seen how frustrated Hibbert was on the bench against the Raptors when they were getting whooped on the offensive glass. D-Lo's one word answers is not a good sign for the kid's mindset. Tarik Black and Larry Nance not getting any minutes? Should we even dive into the lack of discipline when it comes to Kobe???

    I really don't get the logic as of late.
     
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    Pincus doesn't really have a reason to toe any company lines guys. He's not employed by the Lakers, he's employed by the LA Times. The LA Times has been open to trashing the Lakers when they want to. Baxter Holmes gets press passes even though he's easily the biggest Laker/Kobe hater in the LA media market. Pincus isn't protecting anyone right now.

    He's probably just playing Devil's advocate to what is an avalanche of Byron Scott hate that, up close, is disproportionate to what we're seeing. Meaning: the team is worse than just Byron in his opinion. He (and other media personnel) likely think there's so much work to be done on the roster and with individual player development that blaming 100% on Byron (which is what it looks like on Twitter) just seems like we're looking for a scapegoat and that's it.

    That being said, it's clear Byron is a bad coach. I'm not sure why you'd need more time to figure that out. Rotations that don't make sense, systems that don't fit your roster, weird things he says to the media? Why? Why would you say your rookie is a year from being comfortable? What does that accomplish? Russell has looked much better of late even though he's got a long, long way to go. Why not say "He's looking better. He's doing X, Y, and Z a lot better, but there's still plenty of work to do." Give the kid some credit for working hard, be encouraging. F*** what a terrible way to teach.

    The man has to be let go this summer. Protecting the pick? Are you f***ing kidding me? He's protecting our AT BEST 60 some odd percent of keeping the pick if we out-tank Philadelphia? Okay you know what? Fine. Say he IS here to protect the pick, well once you've got the pick then Byron's role in this awful game is over. He's done. He accomplished your not-so-stealthy tank job. That means get him the f*** out this summer no matter what. Make him leave and go get a real coach because this man doesn't know what he's doing.
     
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    Close game, Portland constantly getting in the paint, still has Hibbert out of the game...

    Does Byron have direct orders to play Kobe a minimum 30 mpg for a retirement tour or what? He's clearly struggling out there and any coach would bench him after the type of crappy shooting and defense he's playing.
     
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    I'm not entirely sure I understand the "logic" he's trying to follow. So because Scott underachieves with a roster far more talented than a 2-whatever we are now record, he deserves to be kept on because of an NBA rule that stipulates teams get first pick of new players in order to help them get better, because they can't do it on their own. This logic only works if Scott is intentionally losing and has been told to intentionally lose. Neither of which are true.

    Pincus was always an average writer at best. He never would have gotten a job at the LA Times 25 years ago. He has it now because the most talented writers don't write for the sinking ships that are newspapers.
     
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    maybe you guys picked it up faster than i did but after last nite, it was clear to me that Byron's top and maybe only priority right now is Kobe's retirement tour
     
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    Ouch!!!:ShaqOh2::Kobe Snickering:
     
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    Honestly, I think what you wrote is much better at playing devil's advocate than what Pincus is putting out there, and he's the journalist. The mere fact that you actually allude to reasonable criticisms beyond Byron is what lends credibility to that kind of argument. Unless people are cherry picking what Pincus has been writing (I don't read his stuff religiously), all I see from the tone of his stuff is a constant defense of Byron Scott. How can he say he's not sure if Byron is a good or bad coach yet? Even if you ignore the (what he thinks is unwarranted) criticism of Byron, just look at what is happening on the court and during games. To not be able to base an opinion off that is ridiculous, especially for an NBA writer.

    Also, his logic in trying to "understand the logic" makes no sense. He says he hasn't rendered a verdict on Byron Scott, but he points out that Byron and the team are losing...going so far as to say that if they continue to keep losing at this rate under Byron Scott, it could be a good thing because we have a chance at keeping the pick. So he is trying to spin that as a real possibility and a reason for keeping Scott, but somehow he still can't make up his mind about Byron as a coach? If they lose on such a monumental level as he suggests, wouldn't that be a hint that Byron Scott is not a good coach? There's a disconnect there. His lines of thought all lead towards rationalizing Byron Scott staying as the head coach. I'm sorry but he totally comes across as some sort of Byron Scott fanboy. It's completely transparent. He seems to think levying zero criticism towards Byron Scott is the same thing as being neutral and fair-minded, which is in no way true. Someone show me some hard and direct criticism he makes towards Byron and I will reconsider my opinion. Until then, statements like this really irk me.



    Yea, but a little too readily imo.

    A parting analogy for you..
    Byron : Kobe as Pincus : Byron
    FANBOYS!
     
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    Quote one there is ridiculous. HIS current lineups are a huge part of why we are losing already. The second statement is just stupid, incredibly stupid. I don't care if Kobe is the greatest Laker ever, you don't earn the right to chuck at the expense of other players on the team, especially from 3 where you couldn't hit the ocean if you fell off a boat.
     
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    What did we do to deserve this?
     
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