Byron Scott Discussion 2015-16 - FIRED!!! (PAGE 172)

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  1. pound4pound

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    they will wait til Staples is littered with empty seats and ratings plummet even further before firing Byron...i would laugh if they have the gall to raise ticket prices
     
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    is the lakers FO honestly that out of touch with everything that they don't realize how detrimental byron is to the development of the kids?

    russell, randle, and clarkson are all going to end up being busts with byron completely effing up their development. how the $%&# could they actually think bringing byron back would be beneficial in any way?

    as if this franchise couldn't sink any further
     
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    I won't go as far to say they'll be busts. Russell and Randle can and I believe still will be great players. Kyrie Irving still went on to be an All Star despite having to play with Byron for two years. We know about Chris Paul and Jason Kidd so if a guy is a great player even as bad as Byron is he won't be able to stop him and I fully believe D'Angelo and Julius are gonna be.
     
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    They can try, but no one will go. I honestly would expect a small wave of season ticket holders give up their seats.
     
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    If you look up delusional in the dictionary, you see a picture of BS.
     
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    Not that Thibodeau is the greatest coach but it's asinine if we keep the worst coach in NBA history when he's available. It just defies logic.
     
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    If he is brought back, he is going into next season as a lame duck head coach. It will be a other year of disappointment and frustration as a fan; possibly even anger. This is just total incompetence of they decode to keep him.
     
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    Well, it's their jobs on the line, too. If they want to roll the dice with Boron taking them back to championship contention there's not much we can do but wave bye bye to them at the end of next season. Seriously. If they think Boron will save their jobs that's their call. I guess I'm fine with that. Whatever they think will take them to the promised land. Wouldn't be my call, for sure. But like Byron says he's smarter than me at basketball and so are Mitch and Jim.

    I'm going to have to give it some serious thought about tuning in next season, though. That's the part I can control. I love our young core. But I don't know if I can watch another year like this with Boron at the helm playing God with their minutes, chewing them out in the media while coaching like hot garbage with no discernible offensive or defensive systems that make any sense. I won't say anything absolute yet, but . . .
     
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    I hope we're not stupid enough to head into free agency with this clown as our head coach
     
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    We're going to keep him and end up firing him some time the middle of next season. Since we won't bring in any good assistants either, we're going to end up with Madsen finishing up the year for us.

    This is just dumb and I'm honestly not sure I can sit through another year of Byron-ball. This was the first season I can remember that I would completely forget we were even playing some nights. Next year will be even worse for so many.

    A part of me thinks Jeannie wants this to happen so the team will fall completely apart and she can get rid of her brother once and for all.
     
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    After watching Mitch's exit interview, I think he's ready to move on from Byron. A lot of his language was very guarded as always, but the media gave him ample opportunities to say "Byron will be our coach next year" and all he could say were things like "we'll have a meeting in a few days" or "I don't want to repeat what I said a few months ago with 'Byron is our coach now'" and things like that.

    He also seemed to indicate that in HIS mind (Mitch's) Byron is the set up guy for the next coach who will take us over the top. It sounded to me that Mitch viewed Byron as the Mark Jackson to the next guy who will be hopefully Steve Kerr even though Byron would obviously prefer to be Steve Kerr.

    Mitch also was adamant that the most important thing was playing the young players. He continued to state that coaches would prefer to play veterans because veterans are more capable of contributing right away which typically leads to wins and coaches can only use their record as a resume so they tend to lean that way. That explanation honestly helps me have just a modicum more respect for Byron because at some point he finally buckled and allowed Mitch and the Lakers to force him to play the young guys which effectively crushed any chance he'll ever have of being a head coach in the NBA again. THAT is why everyone is so complimentary of him right now in the organization: they appreciate that he was willing to give up any slim chance he had of coaching in the future for the good of the organization. In the eyes of the Lakers Byron sacrificed his career for the team.

    I will also say that when it's all said and done...

    D'Angelo finished with 2259 minutes which was 2nd most among rookies.
    Jordan finished with 2552 minutes which was 2nd most among sophomores. (which would be 2nd among rookies)
    Randle finished with 2286 minutes which was 7th among sophomores. (would be 2nd among rookies)

    I don't know what that means for Byron's job security, but I thought it was worth noticing.
     
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    I was less upset with Byron's handling of the young players than I was with his inability to adjust his offensive and defensive schemes once it was apparent that hibbert didn't fit here.

    I will say that the kobe situation made life very difficult for everyone. still, on the whole, it's pretty clear that Byron's not a great coach. to me, that means you move on. and not to another high dollar veteran coach. I think you bring in an interesting assistant (caleb kanales anyone?) and give them a chance to prove themselves at low cost/low expectations.
     
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    I had to head to the Urban Dictionary ...... errrr..... Google to find out what or who .....caleb kanales were.... or is. :p


    caleb kanales
     
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    Whew ...depressing to say the least, crossing my fingers though that this is just a bit of respect to Scott to allow the storm to clear with a possible FO office job for him to take to save some face...if he wants it. If not, if he's allowed to return, as towards the end of this year I will be watching real basketball, not the once proud Lakers from the get go. I'll still check them out from time to time and pull for them to improve, but the thought of another, what a 3rd year in a row! of this hot mess taking up my limited entertainment time is too much to bear...
     
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    No good coach with NBA level talent would finish at the bottom of the league in both offense and defense. The team showed no growth, no set rotations, no cohesiveness, or ability to operate a scheme or system.

    Basically, in every area that you grade a coach, he got an F.

    They can't be stupid enough to bring him back. They just can't. It might have been challenging circumstances, but the bottom line was he failed miserably by every single definition of being a coach.

    Except for one endorsement for COY by our lovable resident looney that thinks he'll be playing in the NBA for 3-4 more years.

    :Crazyartest:
     
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    I was less upset with Byron's handling of the young players than I was with his inability to adjust his offensive and defensive schemes once it was apparent that hibbert didn't fit here.

    I will say that the kobe situation made life very difficult for everyone. still, on the whole, it's pretty clear that Byron's not a great coach. to me, that means you move on. and not to another high dollar veteran coach. I think you bring in an interesting assistant (caleb kanales anyone?) and give them a chance to prove themselves at low cost/low expectations.
     
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    His coaching ability was basically nonexistent this year on the floor and I agree with you there. Even more than the various benching or rotation issues, the biggest issue was that he was utterly incapable of instituting an offense/defense and I'm not sure he can draw up a play. I mean coming out of every timeout I think in 82 games we drew up less than 5 successful plays. Just awful.

    I wouldn't mind getting a veteran coach as long as they're the right coach for us. That list is Thibs, Brooks, maybe even Blatt or Messina. Outside of that, I'd be cool with high level assistants or college guys like Luke, Kevin Ollie, Becky Hammon, Sean Miller, or maybe even give a look at Ewing.

    I think literally all of these candidates would be better than Byron both as a leader and as a coach.
     
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