Brandon Ingram Discussion: He Is Who We Thought He Could Be

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  1. sirronstuff

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    Does one every truly "get over" a gif phase?

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    but yes, on the corner with Rob right now actually. I'll pray for your eternal soul. And mine.

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    I'm just a nobody, trying to tell everybody, about somebody that saved my soul. Except Lebron. Unfortunately he's a blasphemer. But still my favorite player ;)

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    why is it that Ingram, Zo and the likes gets blamed for not winning, they're doing their part....look at Pelicans highly paid players like Holiday and Favors, doing jack squat but oh "ingram isn't doesn't play winning ball regardless of his stats"....yea the guy shooting 52% from the floor as a perimiter player, while also hitting 50% from 3's is isn't playing "winning" ball
     
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    Couldn't agree more. This argument is being overused constantly on all BB forums and IMO doesn't make a lot of sense in most of the cases. It is a team sport, there is more to winning than particular player's performance or them playing "winning basketball". There were not so many players in the hostory of this sport who could turn a losing franchise into a winning one by themselves.

    Ingram will be fine, if he can keep up the good perimeter shooting, that will open things up for him tremendously.
     
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    I mean, as soon as they’re putting up numbers on winning teams, people will shut up. And not even title teams—just “not horrible” will do.
     
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    This post includes generalizations. I'm certain you're not one of these people, because I know what you've said about the three players I'm discussing here.

    I've watched D'Angelo Russell put up numbers on a winning team. Lakers fans aren't exactly gushing in their praise of him. In fact, some of them still believe he's a bad player, a team cancer, and a loser. They downplayed his numbers, his ASG selection. They don't engage with his defensive measures, where he's worked hard and has shown improvement. Some LA fans really did wish Russ well from the start, but I saw others change their minds on him after the fact - down on him as a Laker, loved to see him step up in Brooklyn. But I think the general trend is pretty negative against Russ still.

    Honestly, the way many Lakers fans view Kuzma compared to Russ or Ingram is fairly comedic. I think Kuzma's clearly not as good as either of those players, but some LA fans ride or die with Kuzma. He's older than both of them, too!
     
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    if we are all being honest, they all have terrible haircuts

    at least fans should focus on what matters most lol

    I mean, how many followers do they have on the Gram?
     
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    hey man, Ingram hair is normal compared to Dlo and Kuz lol
     
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    give it time, the WTH moments come and go

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    Yep. Just like that Dwight was back to Porcupine last night from Burnt Lobster 2 days earlier.

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    I’m good with honest appraisals across the board. I don’t think my takes on these guys are colored by affiliation; I just don’t see how Ingram and ball look much different now other than bigger roles. I guess ingram’s canning more threes, but that’s a small sample size.

    the Lakers are clearly bad at development and have a bad atmosphere for young players, but some of the onus has to fall on these guys, too.
     
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    I don't know about onus as far as Ingram is concerned. I always thought he has been developing nicely. Not as fast as we would like him to, but there were not so many players in NBA history who would make Lakers fans happy at his age and plugged into the team we had for the last couple of years. There was never any doubt in my mind BI will be a star in this league.
     
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    i liked ingram; i just didn't see him as a star. still don't.
     
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    Real talk

     
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    Sounds like real talk. La didn’t know how to handle the architecture of a post-Kobe team. Especially a young one.
     
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    I think he can be, but he will not be as dominant as Davis or Durant.
     
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    though he credited brian keefe for keeping him on track.
     
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    just came from the Luke Walton thread...they were one of the two winless teams left

    checking on the kids...the other winless team in the league
     
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    #tradition
     
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    Ingram out of all 3 #2 is the only one that cared bout pure bball, Dlo wanted the lime light and his name to shine but didn't put in the necessary work, Zo may or may not have put in the work but his off court crap of promoting his brand did him in the same way. This is why I valued Ingram most out of those 3, only 1 who cared purely bout bball
     
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    ingram was clearly the only one who wasn't a bit of a headcase. i'm glad he's playing well consistently in NO so far. i think that city/organization fits and will embrace him. don't think that could ever have really happened in la. too many expectations.
     
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