Alex Caruso Discussion: That's BULL

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  1. TIME

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    Y'all got a bad case of OCD... Obsessive Caruso Disorder


    But, I don't blame you.
     
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    not worth 9 million per. 7. and not a penny more!
     
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    Call me crazy but I'd rather have Caruso over THT. THT may have more upside, but there's no telling if he'll ever reach that. Caruso is the better player at the moment and arguably harder to find a guy that does his intangibles compared to what THT brings.
     
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    I don’t think that’s crazy at all. AC ahead of him in a number of key, important areas and still improving. Taller, better vertical, arguably better athlete, better shooter, better defender and better anticipation and feel for the game both sides of the ball.

    Anyone ever notice that THT, for a guy with that freak wingspan and only an inch shorter than AC …. often barely gets over the rim on his one handed dunk attempts? Maybe a timing thing but AC still has him on vertical game offense and defense currently.
     
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    Caruso will never be the 3rd or 4th best guy in a contender team. He is a glue guy. THT have the potential to be that 3rd star so that's a bet you have to do.
    Caruso is perfect for our roster now but moving forward is a liability at that 10mil, even as a trade asset. With THT you're buying the upside and still getting a good trade asset if we feel he'll not reach it. A bit like Kuzma. It's a smart business decision

    With how rosters are being built, you can't have more than 4 guys making over 10mil if you have 2 or 3 superstars. You sure one of them should be Caruso?
     
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    Well, he makes under 10, and tht makes more and contributes less. How many years do you wait? What if the contract ends before tht catches up?
     
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    If we feel in the next 2 years that THT will not be the guy we think he can be, you trade him. I can see a few teams taking that leap as he will be 22 still with lots of upside. He can be a centerpiece in a trade for a win-now guy. Caruso can't.

    It's about roster and cap management, managing a franchise is not only on what players allow us to win next Tuesday


    When I said over 10mil I was referring to around 10mil mark. If you play 2 (or 3 like us) max contracts you can only have 2 (or 1) contract on that region. I understand that we choose THT over Caruso.
     
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    could have had a statue at Staples.....
     
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    i'm not sure about that. if we have taken that long a look and move on, do teams want to buy in?

    i get it. it's clear why. i'm just not sure they were right. i could argue THT had more trade value in the short-term, so we should have moved him for a vet or draft picks last year and retained the sure thing. and caruso is a sure thing, if his early bulls play hasn't convinced you yet.

    also, it's a false dichotomy: both could be in uniform right now.
     
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    Because Ingram, Randle, Ball, Clarkson or Russell weren't good enough to be here but are now Max or +20M players. THT may have a similar career if he's not as good as his ceiling. That's good trade value

    There were multiple reports that the tax implications of having both would be huge, 40M area. For me, I would do everything to keep Caruso, I think he's the perfect guy for a contender team. But I understand the decision


    In 5 years it may be enough having AD, THT and a star. You cannot say the same for a AD, Caruso and another star
     
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    I agree with Pika, that if it came down to THT or Caruso, we had to choose THT. What still irks me, is that it did not come down to that. We could have and should have signed both and let the owners lose out a bit on profit. Make that up with some promo, or put one more stupid patch on the jerseys opposite Bibigo.

    :Jeanie Srsly:
     
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    By the way, on the Bibigo promo, I finally tried some of the product from Costco. It's good, I got the mini chicken potstickers. I would buy them again.
     
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    Yeah me too. Bought the dumplings in the box with the packs of six and small bag of sauce for each and the bag of mini won tons, supply your own sauce. Have had 2 portions so far of the dumplings nuked per instructions and meh not impressed won’t buy again. And 12 of the won tons also nuked per instructions and a mix I made of soy and teriaki sauces and maybe like them a little better. Those are chicken and cilantro plus stuff. Probably by the time I finish that big bag won’t want them again either. Only trying both types when hungry and wanting something quick. Possible I won’t even wind up using all of the remaining quantities from the freezer.

    Mini chicken potstickers eh? Maybe 3rd time’s charm. With the freaking record contract Jeanie got out of these guys …. she should have signed BOTH the Eagle and THT and then let their play decide their value for the future going forward.
     
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    I got the chicken cilantro ones. Fried them in a little oil, which I believe would be much better than nuking them. They got nice and crispy, then I made a sauce from ponzu, soy sauce, sesame oil and chili paste. My wife loved them too.
     
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    Keeping Caruso > Keeping THT because Lebron will be done when THT is ready
     
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    so advertising DOES work

    suckas!
     
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    Try steaming them or pan frying in a little bit of oil. Will get a much better product than just nuking them. For the sauce either buy dumpling sauce from an asian market or make a mix of soy sauce, sriracha, a little vinegar, seasame oil.
     
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    You and Wino can have me over for dinner anytime. :Hungryfordoom:
     
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    well, here you get wine too!!

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    The real question is what does Bald Eagle think of the dumplings? He probably doesn’t like them since he got dumped by the Lakers.
     
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