2016 NBA Finals - Cleveland Cavaliers Vs Golden State Warriors

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  1. Jazzygirl205

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    I agree for the simple fact that one of the splash bros are more likely to have 1 or two more games of cold shooting than the Warriors bench is of playing better than Cleveland's starters, so the Cavs should still feel good about their chances.

    I also cosign that they should, keep the original game strategy of keeping Klay and Steph from scoring because their bench is not going to be this hot multiple times. Cleveland has a strong possibility of taking game two. All LeBron needs is barely 30, Kyrie 25, Love 20 with a small showing from Frye and a decent shooting performance from J.R. Smith and they take one in Oakland.

    This can get interesting.
     
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    James looked hesitant taking the perimeter shot last night instead trying to force his way down the lane that resulted in turnovers. His jump shot is as inconsistent all the same. Even that trey that he made...so wide open that he had to measure the shot for it to even have a chance. The quick hands of the Warrior swingmen defensively is also hampering his drives.
     
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    Well they've got to try at least one more time. Keep double and triple teaming Klay and Steph and dare the others to beat you. Unfortunately, daring the others to beat you shouldn't mean wide open layups and dunks. Livingston went off, sure, but most of his shots were basically uncontested. I mean guys like Livingston and Iguodala might not be Steph and Klay, but they can make layups and open shots.

    The reality is Cleveland doesn't have the horses. Oklahoma made it interesting because they've got a plethora of long, athletic big men who can challenge and block shots. Cleveland really doesn't. They've got overpaid guys like Thompson and Shumpert who were thoroughly outmatched.
     
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    The only guys that I don't see repeating their performances are Livingston and Barbosa....Curry and Klay are going to play much much better in the next game and tbh Curry missed a TON of wide open looks. If I'm cleveland....you change your gameplan because tbh they shoulda been blown out by 30 just like their last regular season game against GS....

    Curry and Klay are both equally capable of dropping 30 each....man this series could end up being a bloodbath but I think the Cavs will respond at home. I think they drop game 2 though.
     
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    the Cavs only spent $100mil in players...LeBron needs more help
     
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    Very creative, look at his hairline lol

     
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    oooh, strongly disagree. most of those were contested shots away from the basket, iirc. i kept finding myself surprised they were going down.

    man, the rhetoric after this game 1 reminds of that after spurs/okc game 1. cleveland didn't get here by accident, and i don't think steph and klay's poor performances were as flukish as the one they had early in the okc series. that was a gameplan executed, imo.
     
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    separately, i'm surprised lebron still gets a pass in the media for his occasional on-court petulance. there was a play in the first half last night where he had ezeli switched onto him with about 7 seconds left on the shotclock, and he dumped the ball to love, who, by the time he caught and established position, had about 3.5 seconds. when the ball swung around for a shotclock violation, lebron just glared at everyone, and i'm like...dude: you're supposed to be the best thing since mj...take festus ezeli.
     
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    Not surprised. Last series LeBron had Lowry on him and passed like three times in a row. He is one of the most frustrating superstars I've ever had to watch. People talk about him being more like Magic rather Kobe or Michael, but Magic would never let anyone get away with that especially on the block.
     
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    ^^ Agreed Lakers2015. Was just talking about this today. Magic used to punish smaller players on the block when he had mismatches. He would do it over and over totally exploiting it. I don't understand why Lebronze doesn't do that more often. Last finals he did and he was unstoppable. But that was the only time I've seen him do it.
     
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    I'll rewatch the game some time this weekend but I distinctly remember Livingston, Iguodala, Barbosa, and even Barnes being open a lot. A lot lot. The Cavs did their damnedest to keep Klay and Curry out of it and in so doing they left the role players to make plays. You're right they executed plays to keep those two at bay. They're going to dare the role players to win which I think they can do.
     
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    Cavs aren't good enough defensively both as a team and individuals .

    Too many mistakes by Kyrie , Love , Smith ... Lebron has declined on this end aswell

    As for Livingston he has no pb hitting contested shots over midgets on a regular basis .

    Warriors role players obviously will perform worse at Cleveland , this is when and where GS best players have to play better.

    Cavs need to take some tough decisions such as playing Kyrie and Love less minutes if they want a closer series .
     
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    I would say most of Livingston's shots were contested but they were his money shots: mid-range and he just pulled up over his smaller opponents guarding him. He had a much more difficult time against OKC because even though Waiters was smaller he had the strength to push him out of the spots he wanted and make things hard.

    Livingston probably won't score quite as much as last game, but the shots he took were good ones and for the most part should continue to fall. Barbosa is hit and miss and so is Iggy. But yes, the Cavs are trying to force the other guys to take the shots, and it worked for the most part - but GS' role players hit them. But I do expect Curry and Klay to play much better than they did in game one throughout the rest of this series.
     
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    ...Johnson had better footwork, better touch, better feel of the defender's presence or the doubles coming his way, ambidextrous. There's also that junior, junior, junior Skyhook.
     
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    Honestly.. Livingston, Barbosa, Iggy, Speights & Ezili/Verajao together are as good a many starting rosters in the NBA.
     
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    Curry with a mullet?

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    If or when this series gets close you think we'll see this Steph again?

     
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    Funny! But seeing that pic of the Logo still down on the sidelines teaching, and undoubtedly a huge reason for the great team that the Warriors have assembled, still pisses me off that Phil Jackson helped run him out of the Lakers organization.
     
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    :Randallconfused:

    i already posted at length about his somewhere else, but i think the discussion of gs's bench talent is bordering on mythology at this point. like the spurs, they have guys who fit well into what they want to do. they'd get smashed by several other benches, imo, in terms of pure talent. much less starters.
     

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