Agreed on Towns. One could argue that he put up Top 10 player numbers last year. I think he will be a top 10 player next year and I predict he'll put up 22 and 12 in his sophomore season. He's a BEAST and definitely a sure-fire superstar in this league. Not sure I can say that about ANY of our players right now. Maybe Ingram. But I don't see D'Angelo, Randle or Clarkson becoming transcendent superstars in this league like Towns. And that's fine. We will still have a very good team in the future
i agree that we have a good young core, but one could argue that you trade ALL of ours for one of towns. i said pre-draft that if NO asked for the entire house for davis, i think i'd do it. it's tough, but birds of that stature in the hand...the value can't be overstated.
Well I just don't agree with that. I love Towns a lot, but he's had one great year. Yes it was a great rookie season and do expect him to continue being a great player, but I don't see any reason why Ingram or Russell can be just as great. It'll take them awhile, but no I'm not dealing them for a guy who has only had one great rookie season. Numbers are great and all, but they don't exclusively make you a top ten player and one season of that doesn't either.
In the history of the NBA there's been 6 players to average 18/10/2 with 1.5 blocks or more. Duncan, Robinson, O'Neal, Sampson, Brand, and Towns. Rare company. I'd trade most of our team for him. I think it's a tall order for Ingram or Russell to be as good as he is now with his potential for the future. That's not to say they won't be very good or even great, but Towns looks like a transcendent talent.
I just think that's too early to put him in that type of company and say he's a transcendent talent. He's played one year of basketball and had free reign. Something neither Russell or any of the other guys had. If they had who knows what would've happened? Yes Towns is ahead of them right now, but he should. Everyone knew he was more NBA ready, but Russell has plenty of time to catch and so does Ingram. I don't see any reason those guys can't be transcendent type players provided they keep working hard and keep adding strength. They certainly have the skillset and we actually have a basketball coach now. We saw Tyreke Evans average 20, 5, and 5 which very few guards have done in the league as a rookie and he fell off after that. I'm not saying that'll happen with Towns, but this could very well be his peak. We don't know. It's way too early to say he's gonna be an all time great. Would I trade one of them for him? Yes I would, but both? No I'm not doing that. Their potential is too great together. To me their skillset is every bit as good as Towns I just don't think they're as NBA ready as he is, but time is on their side and in a few years with their length, their respective size, their shooting capability, their great basketball IQ, they both can drive, they both have great mid range games, can post, and eventually should both be good to very good or even great defenders. More likely Ingram than Russell, but their talent and potential is through the roof.
Time is also on Towns's side. He's the same age as them and coming into the NBA nobody expected him to be THAT ready for the NBA. He was a force and the potential that he has looks very, very different than Tyreke Evans. Evans looked good, but Towns looks different. Much different. It's easy to see when you watch him how great he's going to be if he stays healthy. I'd rather have a kid who is a sure thing now with potential to go even further than kids who are not ready yet and still need time to prove their potential. I love Russell and Ingram. I think they fit extremely well together. I think they can be very successful in this league and will battle Towns for supremacy over the next 15 years or so. I'd still prefer Towns.
Watching Summer League, Ben Simmons is passing like Magic/LeBron out there, getting to the rim at will. He's NBA ready alright, strong and fast. McConnell also looks good for Philly.
Ha ha yeah, there was that. He also, as advertised, can't shoot. I'm happy with our draft choice and I'm also happy for philly, they're my good friend's favorite team.
He put on some jaw dropping passes. I stand by my statement before the draft: he's got better vision than D'Angelo I think and I mean that as a compliment to Simmons and not an insult to D'Angelo. Simmons just has insane vision. But his shot doesn't just look bad, it looks broken. It needs to be rebuilt. He also didn't seem all that strong or capable of finishing in this first game. Obviously it's the first impression, but I came away feeling pretty validated. I think Ingram has a shot to be better than that.
yeah just watched the philly game highlight. . simmons is the real deal. looks so freakin' good. number 1 pick for a reason. I hope Ingram can flourish for us
Dilusional Philly fans...LOL Thats just a few...reminds me a bit of Laker fans...but even we aren't this extreme of fanboys lol
Certainly doesn't remind me of anyone here. Holy crap. He does have some Magic to him, but whoever thinks he's bigger and stronger needs to probably look at Magic again. As for multiple MVPs, let's see him actually win a game first. Well technically they won a game in Utah, but I want to see HIM win a game. He didn't win anything in college and so far he's not affecting the win column much here. I know a lot of that has to do with the talent around him, but he's going to the Sixers this season not the Warriors. If he can't truly elevate everyone around him and then shoulder the win himself, he's not going to win an MVP and he's not going to be a Magic Johnson/Larry Bird/Jesus hybrid or whatever it is.
lol @ those "projections". i think he's looked VERY good in the summer league, but as real said, it's troubling that his teams don't win. i'm curious to see what he looks like against nba defenses.
I know you're concerned about Russell's attitude, but holy crap the air of this kid is just palpable. I don't think he could think more highly of himself if he were a combination of Mel Gibson and Floyd Mayweather.
I predict a 6'10" Rondo, which should be an awesome, perrenial all-star player...but not a trancendent legendary quasi-deity.
He will be an allstar I think with his passing ability and size/strength but he won't be extremely better until he develops a shot. If he can only score off of lay ups, good luck when you drive and run into Okafor/Noel/Embiid.
OK .... here we go .... now he's mad again about Super teams. Haven't read yet. Wonder what he's proposing to do about it? View photos NBA Commissioner Adam Silver speaks before Game 1 of the 2016 NBA Finals. (AP/Jeff Chiu, File) Kevin Durant’s decision to join the Golden State Warriors in free agency, adding one of the very best basketball players in the world to a star-studded core fresh off winning an NBA-record 73 games and coming within a few minutes of back-to-back NBA titles, has led many observers to all but crown the Warriors as next year’s champions and decry what they perceive as an inevitable elimination of competitive balance throughout the league. While commentators’ anger has tended to focus on Durant for choosing to join the Warriors rather than staying with the Oklahoma City Thunder and attempting to beat them, some have also turned their attention to the NBA itself, wondering how a team that already employs the two-time reigning Most Valuable Player and two highly paid All-Stars could also be allowed to pony up a max deal for Durant without running afoul of salary-cap restrictions … and wondering whether maybe the rules should be changed to prevent such super-powered team-ups in the future. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver discussed the ramifications of Durant-to-the-Warriors during a press conference after the league’s Board of Governors meeting at Las Vegas Summer League on Tuesday night, a meeting he said featured “a robust discussion in the room of various views of player movement that we’ve seen.” His response suggests that while he doesn’t begrudge players their right to move as they see fit within the rules, he’s still interested in pursuing changes to the league’s structure that would make it harder for them to come together. “I’ve read several stories suggesting that that’s something that the league wants, this notion of two super-teams, that it’s a huge television attraction,” Silver said. “I don’t think it’s good for the league, just to be really clear. I will say whoever is the prohibitive favorite, try telling that to the 430 other players who aren’t on those two teams. I mean, we have the greatest collection of basketball players in the world in our league, and so I’m not making any predictions, but there’s no question, when you aggregate a group of great players, they have a better chance of winning than many other teams. “On the other hand, there are lots of things that have to happen. We’ll see what happens in Golden State,” he continued. “You had a great, great chemistry among a group of players and you’re adding another superstar to the mix, so it’ll be interesting to see what happens. But just to be absolutely clear, I do not think that’s ideal from a league standpoint.” Silver’s concerns about the Warriors’ newly stacked deck stem from an issue that he referenced repeatedly as deputy commissioner under David Stern during the 2011 lockout: “competitive balance.” Many outside the league office have looked skeptically at claims that measures like limiting individual player salaries, instituting harder team salary caps and establishing more punitive luxury taxes have any real impact on teams’ wins and losses. Some viewed calls for increased competitive balance as a red herring to distract from a push to reduce the share of basketball-related income received by players in the last round of collective bargaining. That push worked, by the way, with owners kicking players’ tails at the negotiating table and dropping players’ share of BRI from 57 percent in the last CBA to a 49 percent-to-51 percent band in the current system. That amounts to an estimated $3 billion haircut over the life of the 2011 agreement. As ESPN.com’s Zach Lowe wrote earlier this week, though, Silver “truly believed it was possible to engineer greater parity” through the implementation of measures like the harsher luxury and repeater taxes. Silver believes the league has moved in the right direction on that score — a point some might argue — but still sees room for improvement. “In terms of so-called competitive balance, we’ve had five years of now this collective bargaining agreement, going into the sixth year, and we’ve had four different teams win over the last five years, so I view that very positive from a competitive balance standpoint,” Silver said. “I don’t necessarily want to overreact to a particular situation.” But ... “I think we can make the system even better, and I think it is critically important that fans in every market have that belief that if their team is well-managed that they can compete,” he added. “Certainly, it’s important to me that markets in this league, those that are perceived as small, as those that are larger, all feel like they have an equal chance.” http://sports.yahoo.com/news/adam-s...-think-its-good-for-the-league-164617773.html
