Head Coach Discussion: Canned Ham, Who Is Our New Coach?

Los Angeles Lakers

 

Lakers giving ESPN and The Athletic the access and material for the (justified and deserved) hit pieces that dropped not even an hour after the loss guarantee he's done here.

 

Idk..we'll see what happens.

After they get rid of D'Angelo, Buha won't have anymore "inside" information.

I'm more interested in the players moves, that we make myself.

It's the Jimmies and Joe's, over the X's and O's for me. I said months ago, I couldn't care less if they fired Ham. We have player problems that need to be addressed. Regardless of the HC.

 

The players and what balance Rob gives this team certainly matters. We have a few positions that have to be addressed if we want to really compete in the playoffs and it won't matter who's the coach if we don't make those moves.

But Ham does not have the support of this roster. Players across the league do not like him or want to play for him. That's not sources, that's polled results from players across the league.

Ham did not get acceptable results in the regular or post-season and the methods to his madness were virtually all bad calls.

To compound issues he's shown he's unwilling to learn, grow or accept any iota of blame for anything. Instead it's excuses and finger pointing.

You can't move forward with that kind of man. We were sold on him being a players coach and our top six hate the man.

 

Do they tho? What top 6 hated Ham, now or last season. That's CAP.

If Lebron and AD really wanted him fired, he wouldn't have lasted the season.

I really don't care about Austin, Rui or D'Angelo's feelings myself, they didn't exactly make, some grand great statement against Denver IMO. Their shortcomings were a bigger part of the problem. I'm not confident, that THEY, are the future here either, at all.

Ham ultimately didn't coach around it, but damn, this group still, had multiple shots at winning every single game. They just whiffed..again. You can't run that roster back either man.

Denver isn't the only good team in the West moving forward. Especially with Lebron approaching 40. We need some new bodies.

AD is cool, he's a great teammate and a solid dude. He voiced some frustration, but was all that directed at Ham? Rob still hasn't given him the quality size, he's been asking for.

Lebron on the other hand, was actively pushing for trades. He knew exactly who would have to be traded too. So ..if the King wasn't happy with the roster, the roster will still be the problem.

Maybe our young guys got paid, (except D'Angelo) and perhaps they thought, that they were a little better, than they really are. Let's not act like it, was all about schemes and Tmeouts and such.

I give Austin credit, he acknowledged that talking about adjustments, and all that is cool, but you gotta man up, and go get that win. That's what ballers do.

Rui and D'Angelo, both seem to still be out to lunch, even after getting eliminated. I'm rather surprised at Rui tbh.

They can roll Phil back out there, in a wheelchair, for all I care. We need some different players, more than anything. I'd rather keep Reaves, he's a gamer, maybe not All Star caliber, but still a gamer. Vanderbilt too.

It depends on what's on the table though. Everybody outside of James and Davis should be in play, for the right deal.

 

It’s pretty funny how the national media refuses to criticize Hambone.

 

Sounds like Ham is realizing the crap is hitting the fan.

 

Ham will never be a head coach again that’s for sure, he’ll return as an assistant somewhere

 

Vogel got another job..coaching is a carousel once you get in. These guys get fired all the time, that's one of the reasons I don't consider them to be critical. It's a players league, look at how many different teams have won or played for a chip in the last 6 seasons. Different coaches in all, some have been fired since.

 

Lol..and you think Dangelo can be redeemed too.

Shrug.. hire anyone that we can afford. I garuntee, they are going to want different players too.

 

They do. It's not. If you want to be the only one to not believe one single report, that's fine. Your choice. But if you listen to the players interviews, read their exact words, watched how they spoke; it doesn't get any clearer. Our top 6 want him voted off the island. To be a contrarian to that point is Kyrie level stuff.

That's not how AD operates. Bron has been very strategic to shed the coach killer label that followed him around in Cleveland. The reports (I know...) are that Bron wanted Handy when Ham was hired and still wanted him when Ham's job was in jeopardy this year. Lakers don't bend to Bron's every demand anymore.

Individually, sure. But when your top 6 as a collective want him out then THAT matters.

I agree there. But I don't think wholesale changes are needed. Have to get 1-2 two way players and a legit backup big and player wise, we'd be set. I don't think we'll go that way, I think we're gunning hard for the 3 star plan unfortunately. Either way, still have to kick the coach out.

 

My sources are telling me that Ham was referring to LeBron...lol.

 

Not sure where to put this, but talking about crapping their pants. Did you guys see how the rest of the crew looked when Robert Horry was ripping LeBron for blowing the game with selfish play early in the series?...lol. Nothing but facts though.

 

Now here we can find common ground, I don't believe this Trae Young stuff, that's not how Rob operates. I think it's going to underwhelming from the media standpoint, but a very good player, or two.

Did you see KD and Booker talking? That's direct shots at the coach bro. Not some vague innuendo, I don't like how this offense was being run.(KD)

 

Nah you’re not serious. He was referring to one of the roster changes he deemed necessary magnitudes more quickly than he did for his son Prince. So either AR or DLO.

 

Everybody in the league knows D'Angelo s*** the bed. He even came out with the All the Smoke article to try and defend himself. Who in the hell wants a dude like that in the locker room? Minnesota got rid of him, and the GM made it a point to say. It was his maturity level,he's not a leader.

The part Ham left out, was this..."And I told them, that I didn't want that MF back too!!"

 

Walton has yet to get another head coaching job. I put Ham in that category.