WMC 20-21: Whine, Moan And Complain... You Know You Want To

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  1. OX1947

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    Lakers need a 3rd star.
     
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    The Lakers don't have the assets or the cap space to get a 3rd star.
    Ideally 3 point shooting PF who can play defense like Cam Johsnon or Collins would be ideal as well but even these guys are out of the Lakers abilities to get

    However, getting a semi-star like Derozan to replace Kuzma minutes and more shooting like Graham would do wonder though
     
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    Only offer we can give DeRozan is the $10 million MLE. He won't take that but would be great if he did it on a one-off type of deal, win a title, and then get a max from another team. Graham would be great but I think with him never having a big contract, he's going to chase the money over the title any day.
     
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    If we could get Derozan for Kuz and KCP please sign me up now.
     
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    Spurs will never help the Lakers. Pop intentionally traded Kawhi to the Raptors despite the Lakers having a much better offer.
     
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    hes a fa
     
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    Who we can't afford. So you'd have to trade for him.
     
  8. Khmrp

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    doesnt mean spurs hold high value for him, otherwise they would've extended him prior just give em kuz/1st
     
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    Playing for Pop would be the best thing for Kuz's continuing development.
     
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    no way in hell pop trades with the lakers

    have the lakers ever made a trade with the spurs during the pop era? i can't think of any off the top of my head
     
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    Wasted season with an embarrassing ending. And it may get way way worse - if the Clips win it all.
     
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    a 1st n decent role player for someone they werent bringing back should trump moronic bias
     
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    I think you can't include KCP in any deal that doesn't bring in another 3 point shooter. Derozan is a huge upgrade over Kuz but he's not a 3pt shooter.
    Derozan fixes the Morris/Kuzma problem but need to add another shooter.

    need to dump all these bigs wasting money in Gasol/Drummond/Harell to get more shooting and a big wing/tweener you can trust to finish games
     
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    Pop literally traded Kawhi to the furthest location he could find from LA. He’s complained vocally about several trades and moves that made us better over the years. He is not about to trade with us.
     
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    they're not beating the nets
     
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    Agreed.

    I also think they are about to have a tough time with the Jazz.
     
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    Clippers are FAR from being a lock for the Finals .

    They'll face better team(s) than Dallas going forward .

    They needed a superhuman series from Kawhi to barely win Round 1.
     
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    We don't need a third star unless Bron starts seriously declining which I don't see happening through his current contract. We just need Bron and AD to get healthy and to round out our team with veterans with playoff experience. That's how we won in 2020.
     
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    Yeah I don’t think it’s necessary or realistic to expect we can get a third star with our cap situation. But I’d think it might be possible to upgrade in our role players with a Kuz trade. Again I’d love to trade KCP and Kuz (probably the pick too) for Derozan but as others have said Pop would have to bite which he won’t. Even then Derozan isn’t the best fit with Lebron and AD’s games but he’s still a big upgrade over the two.
     
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    I would do DeRozan for Kuz + KCP in a minute. A third consistent scorer would be amazing, and three point shot or not, with Bron and AD getting all the attention, DD would put up 20ppg without even trying.
     
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