Wmc 15/16: We are finally at the END! BYE BYRON!!!

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  1. John3:16

    John3:16 Moderator Staff Member

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    16 games left. 9 are winnable. We can seriously move out of the bottom 3.

    Good or bad thing?

    IMO, losing is never okay. But we've come this far, why finish 4th and lose a top 3 pick?
     
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    I'm not concerned
    Because I know Byron's long history
    And of his unique ability
    To snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
     
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    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

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    As long as we win on the backs of Julius, D'Angelo, and Jordan I don't mind if we win a game here and there.

    If we win because Kobe or Lou gets 40 then I'm not going to be happy because that doesn't help us much now or in the future.
     
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  4. abeer3

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    2nd worst record only gives the lakers a 50/50 shot of keeping the pick, so I'm not going to freak out either way. when the season started the way it did, I resigned myself to handing over the 4th or 5th overall pick to philly.
     
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    I'd consider it insult added to the injury Scott did this year's Lakers squad. Having us look like and play like s*** all year because of his asinine coaching, so that now any looks free agents give our way toward the players we have in place most likely are lukewarm, unless the kids who he wouldn't make use of all season salvage some of that look back now that he's trying to save his pathetic year long performance. But then, in doing that, to not close it out for best lotto chance at least with the 2nd worst record really twists the knife as its seen for everyone what we should have been looking like since as far back as Christmas.
     
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    I think there are a few ways to look at it, and none of them are really going to help a laker fan sleep at night.

    one is that scott was sort of right, and that had the youngsters gotten overexposed early, the record would be the same, and they'd be demoralized. that's his "keep my job" pitch.

    another is that we'd have been a 35 win team had they just let the young dogs eat, but there's no guarantee this does much for you, FA-wise (I would have preferred this, though).

    the best of all worlds scenario is the lakers finish by winning just enough to look respectable, and by luck, keep the pick.

    anyway, there is absolutely no way of really knowing how things would have played out had Byron tried a different approach. I just knew after watching the first few games what was about to unfold, so I've had several months to go through the pre-grieving process.

    lace 'em up and try again next year. silver lining there is that the lakers will probably have a pick no matter what...much more appetizing than the bizarre lotto watch that has been the past two years.
     
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  7. Lakers2015

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    I'd sleep just fine at night if the Lakers won 35 games. Just fine. Yeah maybe that still doesn't convince Durant, but it still shows tremendous improvement. Tremendous growth. Kobe gets to go out on a competive team. The young guys will have learned how to win a fair share amount of games. Who cares about the pick? After seeing how Simmons performed in that championship game he's at best a 50/50 prospect to be a star. There's such little chance of actually getting him that I would've much preferred being a competive basketball team this season and at least showing free agents we have some pieces here for you to play with and help them take another step.
     
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    Lost twice tonight. Lost the game, lost a chance at the young guys to play in a close meaningless game. This part of the season and we are playing Lou/Kobe/Celo in crunch time over JC/DR and effing Ryan Kelly in the 4th and not Randle. I don't care if he was at the 3, if Ryan Kelly is in the game and it's close you have no clue.

    No surprise the vets come back and ball movement and all the nice play we've been having without them turns to absolute s***. I'm sure the young guys will get the blame for this game tonight when in reality it was two piss poor teams going ISO all night making a disgrace to the game of basketball.

    I don't know why I'm so fired up, but it's just small crap like this that reminds me that well our coach doesn't have a f***ing clue and the FO just lives with it.

    Optimism - Tank is still alive and Byron looks like an idiot.
     
  9. lakersyunowin

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    I mean whatever Byron is doing, the one inexcusable thing is playing Ryan Kelly. There is no rationalization for that in any universe.
     
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    Playing the new face of this franchise 22 minutes is inexcusable.
     
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    That's still a level below playing Ryan Kelly in an actual NBA game, in terms of egregiousness. :D:D:D

    Think of the children!
     
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    This game pissed me off. Benching the young guys, ball movement down the drain, Boronic coaching, what's not to hate?
     
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    This was a bad game all around. We lost. Rookies stuck on the bench. Ball movement stops when the vets play again. Byron with his wack substitution. We didn't learn anything tonight as a team.
     
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    But... but... we almost won it, you guys...
     
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    Lou Williams is a loser. Period.
     
  16. lakersyunowin

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    Aw, don't hate on Lou Will. But I don't think he has a place on this team.
     
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    F*CK YOU BYRON SCOTT
     
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    In today's NBA with seemingly everyone except us of course playing a team brand of basketball I don't think Lou Williams is a good fit for any team that wants to win.
     
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    Lou Williams absolutely has a place in the NBA, that's silly. He won 6th Man of the Year and has performed well this season. It's not his fault he's put in situations that lead us to loses. As a bench scorer, he's a great asset. It depends on the coach to put him in that position. That being said, his utility was giving us a bridge until the kids are ready. As it turns out, the kids are pretty much ready right now so his utility isn't as high as the Lakers probably anticipated. I'm not willing to trade him just because Byron is too stupid to use him correctly, but I am willing to trade him because he doesn't work with the kids. I'd much rather we have a three guard rotation where Jordan, D'Angelo, and maybe Huertas or maybe someone better comes in and focuses on moving the ball. Williams is a scorer and while he may be able to pass, it's not his strong suit. Having him mutes our other players so I think he'd be best suited somewhere else.

    Any who all of you who are saying this is the worst loss are 100% right. This is the literally the worst we could do: no young guys down the stretch and we lost progress as a team that was playing really well. Losing "protects" the pick, but at this point we're going to finish 2nd to last so I'm not all that worried about moving up or down in the tank rankings. Byron is the worst coach I think you could ever imagine. "Trying to win the game" means playing the young guys big minutes. They clearly were unhappy and uncomfortable today and I think I can figure out why: crowded guard rotation meaning less minutes and Kobe playing meaning less possessions. I love Kobe, but we're a much better team without him right now. If we had Kobe OR Lou I think we'd be in a better position, but two guys that consume that many possessions is a terrible thing for a young team.
     
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    It's not silly at all. There's a reason teams keep dumping him. He's not a winning player. He takes awful shots, only makes about 40 percent of them, and doesn't play a lick of defense. Yeah Byron plays him too much, but that doesn't excuse him for playing so selfishly and only setting up teammates as a last resort. He's awful. Get him out of here.
     

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