Univ. Of Alaska Study Proves 9/11 WTC7 Collapse Caused By Explosives

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    20 minute video, but worth watching.

    Quick background. There were 3 structures that collapsed on 9/11. The twin towers were attacked by planes, but the 3rd structure, WTC7 was supposedly brought down by office furniture catching fire from embers released by the twin towers.

    The University of Alaska, Fairbanks just finished a 4 year $300,000 study that proves definitively that WTC7 could only have collapsed the way it did from a planned demolition using explosives.
     
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    To say nothing of how impossible it seems the two giant towers both collapsed perfectly.

    About 8 -9 years ago I was driving home late from a video gig and had Coast To Coast on the radio. Some of the guests and topics are really fascinating.

    The author of this first book below was on. Very experienced large plane pilot with knowledge of military and actual special other experience flying covert missions including Iran Contra and in the drug wars against Pablo Escobar, besides commercially with the big planes. Recalling back his take was that with everything that was accomplished in the air with the multiple planes it was impossible for these guys to have come strictly from Al Quaeda and pull this off. But if that's true .... of course conspiracy theorists everywhere's ears have to perk up. It was a really fascinating discussion. The book either was just out or coming out and while touching on fascinating devil's advocating alternate implication that would make @vasashi17 proud, he of course did not give the details in his book away.

    That night's listen to him stuck with me for years because the alternate implications are mind bottling and unthinkable. Then allegedly a couple years later in 2013 he committed suicide and killed also one or more of his own children. The alternative thinking of course is that he was dangerous and was taken out. See the 2nd link which is a search on the topic


    The Big Bamboozle: 9/11 and the War on Terror


    When did Phillip Marshall die from suicide allegedly


    And then on another late night on Coast to Coast I heard this female author talking about her research and her book titled, "Where Did The Towers Go". Maintaining that for their sheer mass the piles of rubble for each were way too small, and then was talking about science fiction like findings that her research had uncovered. Read some of the Buyer reviews of the many on Amazon. This is no crackpot author.


    Where Did the Towers Go? Evidence of Directed Free-energy Technology on 9/11


    It's too bad I have never made time for reading books because these two above would top my list. All my time is taken up news wise and research wise in what interests me on line and of course on Lakersball following Clublakers, along with the other forums that support my interests.


    Edit .... maybe plausible explanation but putting the tin foil hat on myself. I cannot copy the links on Amazon for either of those books and have them show up here. Blanks in their place. So I simply inserted their titles. Check em out if interested. Weird.
     
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    The general rule for conspiracy theories is "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Those books look interesting, but they don't seem to provide the evidence to back up the claims. I believe the University of Alaska study may actually result in a lawsuit.
     
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    Did you just read the liner notes? I don't know but I certainly would not be quick to dismiss. And LOL after you're submitting a study with forensic proof that they rigged this other building. Who? Why? In advance of the attacks? C'mon now!

    And especially when Marshall, the author of the first book is alleged (after reading a bit on one of the first search results) to have killed his two children and his dog before committing suicide. Then secondly I just took a brief glance at one of the reviews from a person who bought the second book and as I do on any important gear I have bought sight unseen over the years, look at the ratio of 5 stars and 4 stars. 405 reviews. 89% 5 stars and 4% 4 stars. If you see the logic in taking note of intelligently written reviews in high quantity of anything on Amazon.

    Not to mention why did they, far as I know, never find like Large Airplane wreckage where it slammed into the Pentagon. Now I could have missed it but that is the impression I had over the years. So if not a plane what the **** was it that flew in there and blew up?
     
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    Thanks for tagging me in LT. I normally don't like to comment on non ball related material here, but I ain't playing devil's advocate to the conspiracy for sure. Actually the devil is in the details with the official record imo. Normally I like to go against the majority, but it seems that conspiracy theory is what the majority believes and the official record is in the minority.

    Let's just say science disproves the official story 100% of the time and alot of money was made in the aftermath of innocence lost that day. That's motive enough for some people...if you want to call them that.

    I'll eventually check out all the material presented in here cause it does peak my interest, but that day sickens me cause I honestly believe it could have been avoided.
     
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    @LTLakerFan I'm not saying those books have no evidence. I'm sure they do. But would it stand up in a court of law? Probably not. They do look interesting, and I might take a look.
     
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    I don't understand the difference between what you are casually suggesting here like it's a jewelry store break in or bank heist in seriousness equivalent. And there's going to be prosecution or litigation with actual names being charged? How many people did it take to rig that building that freaking knew 9/11 was going to happen?

    All I'm saying is I heard both of these people talk on air by chance at different times. Read just the first 20 or 30 of the over 360 5 star short reports on what intelligent people say is her methodical and well presented evidence. The story is not what can be proved but what is emerging and seems against all instinct to possibly have happened with people on our side involved. Or is the report saying all the demo riggers were from Al Qaeda or Middle East?

    Isn't your story kind of a smoking gun to illustrate what the Truthers have been ranting about all these years? Aren't there pieces of footage seeming to have white puffs of smoke shooting out of windows below the fire lines in both towers right before the collapses? I believe I saw those in some report on 9/11 looking for "the truth".

    What is your knowledge, or anyone that knows more definitively than me, of did they ever actually find any Plane wreckage at the Pentagon?
     
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    I'm talking about the difference between court of public opinion and court of law. A court of law holds a higher bar for conviction than changing a person's mind.

    Further investigation will have to be done to find out who planted the explosives. Hopefully, it's done by the FBI. But that probably won't happen without political pressure.

    Yes and no. It's a smoking gun for how WTC7 was brought down. It doesn't prove who did it. It's a positive sign in the right direction. But more work has to be done.
     
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    Bottom line .... your post awakened in me the memory of these two books and the high degree of authenticity from whence they came. And not having read either, first the highly questionable situation surrounding Marshall's death after his book, and the sheer number of people writing intelligent recommendations and reasons why Where Did The Towers Go was solid in its methodology and fact finding on an amazing take. I mean yeah if you look at the photo on her cover that we have all seen captured in so many photos .... both of them coming perfectly straight down and with that whole drop spitting out nothing that catches your eyes like large beams and girders, but rather a nice uniform spray of broken up and pulverized rubble. (not saying NO beams and girders flew).

    It just looked like a perfect demo job on the two tallest and most massive buildings in NY) She said the piles at the bottom should have been WAAAY bigger. No plane into the Pentagon, if true? All amazing stuff counter to the official account. This other building rigged beforehand that you shared the study on. My share really is supporting the WTF ness of the facts your story presents and begs for explanation.
     
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    Our own government being involved in a staged terrorist attack is simultaneously unthinkable, heinous, and completely plausible.
     
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    funny

    bet you have no problem with trump cozying up to saudi arabia time and time again during his presidency though right? you know, the country which nearly every 9/11 hijacker was from
     
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