To Serve And Protect

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  1. John3:16

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    ^^^ good research Barns. I question the motive of a few of your references, such as the ACLU, but overall I agree. Interestingly, most of the prison stuff is from the Clinton era, yet blacks, for the most part, love Clinton and are voting for Hillary.
     
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    Can't say much about that, but that does not sound like Police Radio Traffic at all. If Chicago PD talks like that on the radio, that's a problem. As far as the comment, our communications has been hi-jacked several times with people spewing tons of crap. I'm not sure if thats the case here... What department doesn't keep track of its radios, and who it goes to?
     
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    Good question. You would think they all would
     
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    "A Mailman Handcuffed in Brooklyn, Caught on Video

    Late in the afternoon on St. Patrick’s Day, Glen Grays, a 27-year-old African-American mail carrier, was making his rounds in Crown Heights, in Brooklyn, about to leave a package at 999 President Street. Mr. Grays prides himself on getting to know the community he serves, he told me on Wednesday. He figures out who is sick, or old, or enfeebled, and makes sure that their parcels, especially if they contain medication — “I can shake a box and usually figure that out,” he said — land directly at the doors of the people waiting for them, even if they live in fourth- or fifth-floor apartments, in walk-up buildings.

    On this afternoon, Mr. Grays was descending the steps of his mail truck backward, as postal workers often do to minimize wear and tear on the knees, when out of the corner of his eye he noticed a car making a sharp right turn onto President from Franklin Avenue. Mr. Grays shouted at the driver, climbing back up the steps to avoid getting sideswiped. The black car, in Mr. Grays’s telling, came tearing back his way in reverse. The driver said to him, Mr. Grays recounted, “I have the right of way because I’m law enforcement.” The unmarked car held four plainclothes police officers, according to the Brooklyn borough president’s office, which has taken an interest in the case.



    This video of Glen Grays's arrest on March 17 contains graphic language. Video, via DNAinfo.com, is courtesy of the Office of the Brooklyn Borough President.

    By the time Mr. Grays arrived at the front door of 999 President Street, the police were approaching him. A video of the incident, taken by an observer on the street, begins at this point and shows Mr. Grays, in his postal uniform, as he is handcuffed, frisked and taken to the unmarked car. The officers tell him to stop resisting, even though there is no evidence in the video of resistance. What the video does not show, Mr. Grays said, is what happened next, after he was placed in the back seat of the unmarked car, with his hands cuffed and without a seatbelt, compelling him to leave the mail truck unattended. The driver, who had turned around to taunt him, hit the vehicle in front of them, Mr. Grays said, causing him to bang his shoulder against the front seat. Mr. Grays was then taken to the 71st Precinct station, where he was issued a summons for disorderly conduct that will require him to appear in court. He was then released.

    On Tuesday, the Brooklyn borough president, Eric L. Adams, himself a former police officer, released the video at a news conference, expressing what he said was his outrage over the ostensible violations of the civil rights of yet another young black man, this one an employee of the federal government.

    Mr. Grays is the oldest of six boys. His mother, Sonya Sapp, who lives in middle-income housing in Fort Greene, spoke briefly, only to say, “I worry about them every day, every minute, every second of every day,” before fading off with, “I’m short on words; I’m just hurt.”

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    Mr. Grays’s fiancée is also shaken. She is a New York City police officer he met while delivering the mail.

    The day after the news conference, the Brooklyn district attorney, Ken Thompson, announced that his office would not seek a prison sentence for Peter Liang, the former police officer convicted of manslaughter in the death of Akai Gurley two years ago in an unlit stairwell at an East New York housing project. In response, Mr. Gurley’s family issued a statement demanding accountability and a real message from prosecutors that “police officers are not above the law.”

    About Mr. Grays’s encounter, the Police Department said only that the matter was “under internal review,” in an email response to queries. Mayor Bill de Blasio’s deputy press secretary, Monica Klein, added that the mayor would be “in close touch with Commissioner Bratton over this incident’s investigations and findings.” (William J. Bratton is the police commissioner.)

    Mr. Grays, who speaks with an intense focus, has an elaborate tattoo on his right arm, a tribute to his paternal grandmother that says, “Willa May Grays 1928-2004.” Twenty-two years ago, when he was 5, she covered his eyes on a sidewalk in Brownsville, shielding him from the sight of a stabbing that unfolded right in front of them. “I have been to more funerals than graduations,” Mr. Grays said, explaining that the horrors he had witnessed kept him from whatever nefarious temptations might present themselves to a boy growing up in a rough place.

    Before joining the Postal Service, Mr. Grays worked at a branch of Key Food in Park Slope, where he took home $117 a week, he said: not nearly enough. He dropped out of college at City Tech, he said, because he couldn’t afford to stay in school. Later he worked stocking inventory at Fresh Direct in Long Island City, in Queens, but the stocking room was very cold, so he took a job in Floral Park, near the border with Nassau County, for a uniform company, which required him to leave his apartment in the Bronx at 3 a.m. to take the D train to the F to a bus that brought him to Carnation Avenue by 5:30.

    Mr. Grays recounted these aspects of his biography to me at Brown Memorial Baptist Church in Clinton Hill, in Brooklyn. He brought along his mother; three of his brothers, among them a set of 4-year-old twins; and his aunt, who, he pointed out, had accomplished the feat of sending one of her children to Brooklyn Tech, the highly competitive high school. He quoted something his grandmother used to say: “The best way for a black man to become successful is to stay away from the cops, to keep a clean record.” Mr. Grays said he felt that he needed to live his life as an example for his siblings. He pointed to his fiancée, who sat silently in the corner. “I don’t hate cops,” he told me. “I’m marrying one.”"

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    ^^^ Ridiculous waste of time, abuse of power, power trip, whatever you wanna call it. "Oh you yelled at me, guess what I'm a cop, now I'm gonna arrest you because I'm big and bad and have a badge and gun and you can't do a damn thing about it". 'Resisting arrest' for being arrested for no reason, SMH.
     
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    ^^^ Him saying they're all drug dealers in the Tenderloin is actually true. LOL I'd rather walk through Oakland than the Tenderloin.
     
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    Damn it when will this s*** stop?

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    Graphic Video Shows Baton Rouge Police Shooting Alton Sterling

    A Louisiana state politician told local news that additional footage of the incident exists.
    07/05/2016 11:50 pm ET | Updated 1 hour ago



    A graphic video shows a Baton Rouge police officer shooting and killing Alton Sterling, a 37-year-old black man who was selling CDs in front of a convenience store early Tuesday morning.

    The video appears to have been shot by a witness to the incident.

    The Baton Rouge Police Department has not provided many details on what happened between the officers and Sterling or what caused the officer to pull his firearm, according to The New Orleans Advocate. Investigators are still working to find out what caused the incident to escalate.

    WAFB-TV, a local station, reports that Sterling was selling CDs in front of a Triple S Food Mart. According to the station, the East Baton Rouge Parish Coroner’s Office says Sterling was shot in the chest and back multiple times.

    Baton Rouge Police said the shooting happened around 12:30 a.m. after officers were called to the scene following reports of a man carrying a gun, threatening others and selling CDs in front of the store.

    Warning: This video contains graphic content.




    Following the shooting, one of the officers removed a gun from Sterling’s pocket. But Abdullah Muflahi, the owner and manager of the Triple S Store, told the Advocate that Sterling wasn’t holding a weapon — and his hands weren’t close to his pockets — during the altercation.

    Louisiana is an open-carry state.

    The police department had placed the two officers on administrative leave as of Tuesday evening.

    Body cameras worn by the two officers involved fell off during the altercation, but there is footage from a dashboard camera and at least one surveillance camera, Louisiana state Rep. Denise Marcelle told WAFB-TV.

    Protesters took to the streets Tuesday night to stand against what they see as another unjustified instance of police violence.

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    As some on social media pointed out after the shooting, the state of Louisiana has extensive legal protection for cops, such as its recent “Blue Lives Matter” law. The bill, signed into law by Gov. John Bel Edwards (D) in May, allows prosecutors to bring hate crime charges against people who attack police officers, EMTs or firefighters.

    Rep. Cedric Richmond (D-La.) said footage of Sterling’s shooting is “deeply troubling” and called for a Justice Department investigation into the man’s death.

    “There are a number of unanswered questions surrounding Mr. Sterling’s death, including questions about the initial calls for police presence, the level of force used by officers, the verbal and physical altercation and the response of the officers after he was shot,” Richmond said in a statement. “I call on the U.S. Department of Justice to conduct a full and transparent investigation into this incident. The cause of justice requires state and local law enforcement to join in this request as soon as possible.”

    “I ask the leaders and citizens of Baton Rouge to join me in demonstrating our anger with dignity and demanding proper focus on our cause with perseverance. His family and the citizens of Baton Rouge — especially the citizens of North Baton Rouge — deserve answers and that is what we will seek in a fair, thorough, and transparent way,” Richmond continued.

    Sterling was the 558th person to be killed by police in the U.S. this year, according to The Guardian’s database, The Counted."


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    The video made me sick to my stomach. I don't know if he was reaching for his gun, but it didn't look like it to me. One officer was on top of him, had him pinned, they couldn't have cuffed him quick or something? Seems like another quick judgement and needless loss of life to me. This probably had a greater effect on me too, because while I know about this problem and have for a while, I recently finished the entire O.J. Made in America documentary, and that really opened my eyes to how bad this problem is, levels to it I had never seen footage of or heard of before. I also recently read the The Undefeadted's article on The Waco Horror (Jesse Washington), and these things are fresh on my mind. I also saw a video today of a large out of control white man fighting police in what appears to be a fast food joint, he's being tazered and doesn't stop, he keeps coming at them and taking swings and they put up with it. I just can't imagine if it was the same situation and a large black man, that he'd have been given all the same liberties to continue to fight the police and tazers turn into guns real fast.

    And while it's not race related, today is also I believe the 5 year anniversary of the brutal beating death of homeless schizophrenic man Kelly Thomas, a city one over from mine in Fullerton, CA. He wasn't black, but it was police brutality and murder and they all got away with it. It scares me because an old friend of mine, a kid I grew up with my whole life, is homeless, he wanders the Fullerton/Buena Park area, he has mental issues where he can be set off and do some crazy things, and I worry for him in this same way. Police can murder people, brutally, on camera, and get away with it. It's frightening, it's saddening, and it's sickening. But they stick up for eachother and aren't held accountable. Who polices the police? How do we fix this, I just don't know. Another senseless death, and it won't be the last. I think we're only seeing these more because of cell phone cameras and the Internet, where before it was invisible, and maybe that is the start of change, I dunno.
     
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    These guys were out of control and need to go to jail. Holy crap what a couple of psychos. There's no reason to shoot a man in the chest who is pinned to the ground. You know what you can do? Take the gun he has. He's pinned to the ground. What the hell is he going to do? He's not posing a threat.

    My only problem with this is you have his family on the television crying and saying "he's a gentle giant" well what's a gentle giant need with a loaded gun? I'm not in any way excusing the cops, they need to go prison. I'm saying this man has a loaded weapon on the street corner. Does he have a carrier's permit? He's not exactly innocent the way he's being portrayed. Deserving of death? F*** no. Deserving of getting his firearm taken from him and a slap on the wrist (or maybe even minor jail time if it's a repeated offense)? Yes. There's rules in place for a reason. I'm not rolling around with a gun when I don't have a permit to carry.

    That being said, let's throw those cops in jail right now.
     
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    Louisiana is an open carry state.

    I don't know if he had the gun legally (probably not since he was selling CDs in front of the liquor store), but it's not crazy to have one on your person there.
     
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    Didn't know it was an open carry state. If it was a legal weapon, then the man was 100% in the right and the cops need to go to jail for longer.
     
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    Really sad what happened. Especially now there's actual video of the shooting and his impending death. Wife and kids will forever be reminded. I'm all for the cops deserving punishment but how I see it plays out, There gonna get a small prison sentence. A protected one at that. And probably still get paid
     
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