Timofey Mozgov Discussion: Shut Down For Season (66)

Baze wants $20mil. Horford isn't coming to play with kids for less than max.

 

Worst FA drunk dial we've made in some time. Worst investment since the likes of Gump, Kwame, and co.

60m and this is how you spend it? This is your 12:01 plan? f*** off!

Are we starting from the bottom of the free agent list and working our way up?

 

Honestly who is dishing out 16 mil on the first night for this turd? Who are we competing with?

 

I can hear Mitch now: "Timofey fits a need for us. We identified him very early in the process. We expect for him to play at a high level going forward."

 

Can't say I'm that impressed (stay positive), but with the amount of money that's being thrown around (20million for Bazemore!?) we might look back on this and say its not so bad.

 

3 thoughts

1. I am glad the Lakers didn't hold out for a home run. The big three is Miami has changed the way that free agency works, and before that the culture, by and large due to AAU, has changed. Players no longer want to be the man that a team is built around. Gone are the days of Magic, Bird, MJ, and the other greats that were thinking day and night about beating each other and never even entertaining the idea of teaming up outside the All Star game and Olympics. This has led to a culture of temporary loyalty. Just like in the business world where our fathers and grandfathers worked for one company for decades and now our generation regularly changes jobs every 2-5 years. Big free agents are not going to come to the Lakers until they have a chance to make the NBA finals. In reality the Lakers still have an advantage in terms of money and fame coming from Hollywood, but that is not enough to make up for 17 wins. Better to get a single on an error than strike out looking.

2. At first this price tag bothered me, but with the cap headed to 94m and then to 110m plus, this might not be as bad as we think. Yes to old man Kingsama 15.5m is a max deal, when you have a 52m cap. Guys are going to hit 40m a year if the cap shoots up more. Its the reality of the bubbling NBA, which is going to burst at some point and the NBA is in trouble.

3. This is one of those rolls of the dice, that I wouldn't have rolled, but Tim has played huge in big games. He could become a 10/10 guy and that would be great. He could also be a 5/4 guy and that would be awful lol. One day this could be seen as a steal, a OK move, or a disaster. Its really a wait and see.

In the end the Lakers minus Kobe plus Ingram are going to win more games next year. The Lakers need to let the young bucks run and play, develop, and then start building around that via trade. The reality is that the Lakers are going to have to build like OKC did from the ground up and then sign FA. Maybe Tim can be a piece to that puzzle.

 

No I didn't to be honest. And quite frankly I hope you are right and I eat crow, because my gut is telling me this is a meh signing at best.

 

@rodg: re: our discussion from yesterday: apparently mozgov DID have a botched surgery. in which case i change my vote. gotta hope the FO did their homework on this. if he's really last year's mozgov, this is catastrophic.

i suppose the silver lining is that this would be a nail in the coffin type move for the current regime if they were too lazy or incompetent to run down the facts on that one.

if he can play at the level from two years ago, i'm totally fine with this signing.

i'm a bit bothered that he got more than JC, but i suppose them's the brakes when you're a young RFA.

 

This is obviously a sign that the "King" is coming here.

 

I felt we could have this guy for 10M a year if we waited it out.

 

A botched surgery makes this even worse. What if this botched surgery ruined his knees?

I hate this. This is on par with the Knicks giving Jerome James all that money 10 years ago. This reminds me of when the Supersonics gave Jim McIlvaine that huge contract in the late '90's. This is like when the Mavs gave Erick Dampier 70 million.

This is horrible. I hate this. I can't state enough how much I hate this.

 

Doc this next few days, probably after discussion about the knee and shoulder on the phone, is where the doctorin' due diligence will come in to see if he can be expected to be healthy again or the deal is off.

But if he can be close to or as good a player as he was just 13 months ago and that season for the almost champion Cavs in those long and "consistent" Part 1 and Part 2 clips on the 1st page, he's a good pick up for center. Definitely not a turd.