I don't think it's a wasted season. It's about telling the story about the journey, good and bad. Not trying to tell you guys how to feel about it though, just giving my perspective.
just kinda sucks how the fake scientist and the annoying priest are still alive while Beth get's axed
Eh. I'm hopeful now they'll get away from Atlanta. Do something fresh. Head to the beach maybe. Get on the move somehow away from Atlanta and the hospital and the farm. It's time to branch out.
They keep bringing some elements of the comic into the show, so I don't know how far they will get unless they really diverge from the comic.
Kind of wish they kept the cannibals around longer, they were interesting while these hospital cops weren't.
Agreed. Saying this season was a waste because Beth dies would be like seasons 3 - 4.5 were a waste because the prison ends up getting destroyed. There is no overarching plot in this show. It's always been about short-term goals to survive and seeing how the characters change in response to the things they're forced to go through. Before the episode aired, it seemed to be a pretty common prediction among the fanbase that either Carol or Beth would die. They usually have a major character death in the finales and then they switched it up by having nobody die during the Season 4 finale. It's been too long to go without a big character death. I guess because it was so predictable in that sense, I'm slightly disappointed in the finale. Beth's death was really the only major event to happen, and the rest of the episode leading up to that was kinda slow. But still, they executed the death scene very well. That whole time I thought Beth was about to kill Dawn with the scissors she was hiding and then out of nowhere she gets a bullet to the head. I also really liked the intro scene. The cop who escaped and ends up getting run over by Rick was right. He really has no idea who Rick's group is. He has no reason to think they're good people.
i'm not mad that beth died. i was expecting beth to die. the way she went out was pretty stupid imo though. Emily Kinney seems like such a sweetheart though. poor thing.
The prison encompassed every single character. This season has been basically half Beth or at least revolving around her. That comparison doesn't work.
I don't think HJ meant they were the same, just that they devoted a whole seasons to things that didn't work out by the end of the season
I know, but that's not my point. Dedicating the entire cast to building a safe haven is one thing, but dedicating to finding and rescuing a single person who ends up dead is kind of another. It's a bummer and a bit of a waste.
People would riot in the streets if they killed Daryl. Hell, I think they kill off Rick before they kill off Daryl.
Well I guess I don't understand your point. It sounds like you're saying that this season was a waste because it focused on saving Beth, and Beth ended up dying. And by extension, the season wouldn't have been a waste if they simply had a happy ending and the group safely reunited with Beth? I don't agree with that. I would slightly agree if your point is that this season was a waste because the Beth storyline was kinda boring and poorly executed (regardless of the outcome).
That's exactly what I'm saying. They spent hours (in the show days?) getting ready to save Beth and it all got thrown out the window in minutes. Just spinning wheels without going anywhere. The season wouldn't have been wasted if we'd skipped two "set-up" episodes, killed Beth, and headed out of town already.
I actually think the Beth/ hospital storyline is somewhat of a parallel to the Eugene/dc storyline. There were entire episodes dedicated to building characters and giving those characters a goal, purpose, and sense of hope, only to dash them on the rocks.... nevermind. Abraham's disappointment about dc is felt by the viewers in the Beth situation, " all that effort, setup, and hope for a quick oops nevermind."
I agree Punk, and that's just good writing to me. It fits the world they are in IMO. We need to be drawn in and feel just as let down in order to have a connection to how they must be feeling
Well honestly if anything I'm a little surprised at how easily the group took Beth's death. Sure they're sad and crying, but there was little lashing out. Daryl shot Dawn, but back at Terminus they wanted to kill EVERYONE. I'm surprised Rick didn't go nuts and try to kill all the cops there.
They didn't lash out because that would have left a lot of blood shed. A dozen people in a hallway with guns won't end well for either parties.
They had a lot more to help with the zombies being in the mix at Terminus, and they didn't really have a choice since the people in Terminus were trying to kill the group from the beginning. The cops in the hospital was not a life and death situation for most of them, so I wouldn't expect them to risk their lives in a shootout in a hallway like that.
