The Official Byron Scott Coach Thread 2014-2015

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  1. Jjigga3000

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    He doesn't get a pass, because he's a Laker great. He gets a pass because he had no say so in assembling the team he's been given. He has to figure out a way to make it work, thing is the Laker team is not that good. Take Kobe away and the team gets worse considerably. Boozer is not aggressive as he once was, Jeremy is playing tenative, Hill is up and down, Wesley Johnson is not good at all, Xavier is coming back from an injury, Steve Nash done for the season, Randall done for the season, Price shows up every other game. I could go on, as fans we're stuck with the team we have and it's best not to have high expectations. This whole debacle can be traced to David Stern veto'ing the Chris Paul Trade that was agreed upon in principle by both New Orleans Hornets at the time and the Lakers. From that moment Pau Gasol knew he was an asset, and they could never get rid of him.

    Things in life work out that way, The Lakers are going to probably have an embarrassing season, However a lot of things can change next year, Rajon Rondo, Amare Stoudemire, Iman Shumpert, Brandon Davies, Paul Millsap, Tyrus Thomas, Kemba Walker, KEVIN LOVE, and many more will be available. The Lakers have 36 Million available in cap space money, they'll probably make a couple of trades before the deadline to clear even more space. It's not a great prospect this year, however The Lakers will right the ship. They have to they have no choice.
     
  2. SFGOLDRUSHER

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    Who did he have in CLEV outside of Irving? Dont worry, ill wait lol.
     
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    What does a high school team do better than a Byron Scott coached team?

    Run an offense.

    So what if no one was there besides Kyrie? The principles and foundation of a plan for offense defense wasn't there.
     
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    Even great, hall of fame players will tell you..coaching only takes you so far, talent does no matter what EVEN IF the coaching blows when it comes to basketball.
     
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    I'm not talking about wins and losses.
     
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    2014/15 TOTAL POINTS
    Lakers 821
    Opponents 892

    2014/15 AVERAGE POINTS
    Lakers 102.6
    Opponents 111.5
    Differential: -8.9

    LAST SEASON'S AVERAGE
    Lakers 103.0 per game
    Opponents 109.2 per game
    Differential: -6.2

    THIS SEASON "PROJECTIONS" BY OPPONENT
    (Looking at what each team we've played this year scored per game and allowed per game.)
    Lakers "should have" scored 98.15
    Opponents "should have" scored 101.25
    Differential: -3.1

    So, we're behind both last season's average and behind the average team that played our opponents so far, but...our Differential has been closing of late:

    G1: -18
    G2: -19
    G3: -15
    G4: -17
    G5: -12.6
    G6: -9.8
    G7: -9.1
    G8: -8.9

    And we're only -0.75 over the last four games. Sometimes things take time to click.
     
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    Byron's claim to coach fame was based on the Nets team he coached but let's be serious, anyone could've coached that team and been successful based on the leadership of the squad (J.Kidd). Similar to what Mike Brown did with Lebron in Clevland the first time around.

    What makes me dislike him is the fact that when coaching a team that is not hand fed to him with great talent, he buckles with his lack of basic coaching. Not having the talent is one thing, not running the fundamentals of offense and defense is another. I spotted that years ago and for that reason, I was so apprehensive to have him as the head coach.
     
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    Byron is not going to be here for the long-term, IMO. Once we get our roster in place, we'll go after a better coach. I like Byron, but I already see problems that existed in his past coaching stints. Nevertheless, in the future, I would like to see the assistant coaches upgraded. Similarly to what he had in NJ with Jordan and Frank...that would help.
     
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    ^ I agree. He should have never been signed in the first place. He's a good person and unfortunately is going to be exposed as a below average coach by the same fan base that made him famous (in LA at least). I think this hiring reveals the real problem, the front office. As much as I moan about Byron, the front office is just crap. This org better turn it around and quick. Talk about hand fed, the Buss kids are the definition of that, and will ultimately be the downfall.
     
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    Is the reason that hes only here is so we can rebuild with giving Laker fans hope that he was going to steer the ship into an island that only elite engines can get to with knock off motors from China, though he didnt get to chose the motors himself, for him to try to get as close as possible before they change the motors(players) and captain(Scott)? lol.
     
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    Byron was hired because they want someone the fans like so we don't go asking for the coaches head immediately. Don't think he's going to be sticking around when we build a contending roster.

    My biggest complaint now is how he's not managing Kobe's minutes. He should be playing 30ish mins and not look gassed by the start of the 4th.
     
  12. SFGOLDRUSHER

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    Does anybody have proof of Kobe looking gassed in the 4th quarter? Because I didnt notice it.
     
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    It's not about physically looking "gassed". It's about playing him too many minutes at this point in his career coming off of 2 injuries.
     
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    Some said he was breathing heavily in the second half. I don't know what his shooting % is in the 4th Q, but that would be worth a look.
     
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    FG percentage by quarter for Kobe

    - 1st quarter - 19/47 - 40%
    - 2nd quarter - 21/48 - 44%
    - 3rd quarter - 23/59 - 39%
    - 4th quarter - 13/42 - 31%

    FG percentage by time left in quarter

    - >6 minutes - 29/74 - 39%
    - 3-6 minutes - 22/55 - 40%
    - less than 3 minutes - 25/67 - 37%

    Home game vs. Suns - Kobe on camera multiple times reaching down to touch his toes. When has he ever done that before in his career? Last time I saw him like that, he tore his achilles.

    Same game, Kobe comes out of a timeout visibly sucking wind

    Stretches of games where he plays zero defense and hits the front of the rim on every shot, he's tired

    Who else plays 12 minute quarters in the NBA, multiple times a game? I bet very few and Kobe shouldn't be one of them.
     
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    Stop making sense Doc. Byron... Ehmm SFGOLDEUSHER knows better ;).
     
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    Were really going to use an example of him touching his toes? lol.

    Ill admit its not a great shooting%. But we are talking about the 4th quarter, which he is 8 games into the season where hes still knocking rust off if yall havent noticed after being out of game action for over a year? Year and a half? Just in case yall forgot. Where teams are doing everything possible to stop him, on a team with no talent, trying his best to carry the team since hes hands down our best chance to win the game?

    Essentially what you guys are saying is Kobe is horrible and chokes in the 4th quarter. Because stats never lie. Because the offense is a lot better without him on the floor. Because we have another all-star caliber player on the floor at the same time with him. We shouldnt play him at all in the 4th quarter than. Well just let Lin,Price,Henry,Clarkson,Ellington,Johnson take over the 4th quarter because theyre clearly better options as true play makers in crunch time.

    Got Kenzo over here trying to be funny running his mouth on the internet from Poland lol. All because yall think you know whats best for him, 8 games into the season.
     
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    I don't see anyone saying Kobe chokes in the 4th. I see people saying he's tired in the 4th, but I don't think that's the same thing.
     
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    1.) Coming from a guy that thought MRI's happen after every game, I challenge you to open up your mind a little bit and not just laugh off my claim of him touching his toes. Instead of laughing, why not refute my claim? If it's LOL worthy you should have no problem explaining it to me. Why has Kobe never done that before in his career? What is going on in the body that makes someone bend over like that repeatedly? I think it has to do fatigue, muscles being overused/exerted and Kobe not being ready physically to take on that workload. Explain to me why that isn't the case? Serious questions here and deserving of more than an LOL.

    2.) Why should a guy in his 19th season, not having played NBA basketball in the last year, coming off achilles surgery be subjected to playing 12 minute quarters and 30 minutes before the 4th quarter even starts? How many players at his age and number of seasons in the NBA have played as many minutes per game as he is doing right now?

    3.) People being concerned about how many minutes Kobe is playing = / = Kobe is horrible and chokes in the 4th quarter. That's a bit dramatic and over the top. You asked for evidence, we gave it to you and refute with that? That's truly an LOL moment right there. Why is Kobe's shooting percentage so low in the 4th quarter? Why is lower at the end of the quarter? Instead of trying to make a mockery of the argument, how about refuting those claims about fatigue with some of your own. You wanted evidence, we gave it to you, now I'm asking you for evidence on why it's not fatigue and too many minutes.

    Kobe knows what's best for him just like Steve Nash knew what was best for him the last 2 seasons, just like every great player knows what's best for him at the end of their career.....

    They don't.
     
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    I was in mid response just to see Doc's message pop up. Pretty much nailed it on the head.
     
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