The Official Byron Scott Coach Thread 2014-2015

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  1. LaVarBallsDad

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    LaVarBallsDad, Nov 12, 2014
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    LaVarBallsDad, Nov 12, 2014
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    I mentioned this on the "other site" a few months back.

    Scott strikes me a guy who can give a good speech and say the right things, but he lacks substance as a coach. His NJ teams had top notch assistants like Lawrence Frank and Eddie Jordan. Since he left NJ, his resume hasn't been very impressive.

    That being said, I've seen some things that I like. In some of the recent games, we've been able to steal the ball and get out on the break for easy buckets. The breaks weren't pretty, but they were effective.
     
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    Geez where do I start. Every play ends in a scramble and he doesn't play to everyone's strengths. Plays consist of the team running some half as**d scheme that Kobe has to bail them out of when the shot clock is at 2 seconds.

    He also seems incapable of standing up to Kobe. I thought he was going to put his foot down and limit his minutes, let alone allowing him to take 30+ shots a night. He's never been a legit coach in my eyes. Even if the team win's 40 games, it will be because of Kobe, not Byron.
     
    five6two, Nov 12, 2014
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    Hopefully theyre still expanding the playbook?
     
    SFGOLDRUSHER, Nov 13, 2014
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    I like Scott, which is good, because hopefully it will take longer for me to want him fired if he truly sucks at coaching. At the moment though, there isn't a coach I can think of that could win with this roster, don't even think Phil could get much more out of them.

    That said, I can already pick things I don't like. Overplaying Kobe. Letting Kobe do whatever he wants. Not making Lin a playmaker more or primary playmaker, even if it's rough at first. Using Lin at SG next to Price. Lack of any real offensive system that I can see other than what I said in gameday Tuesday about some weird and pointless sort of triangle passing formation between Kobe/Boozer/Lin or Kobe/Hill/Lin 20-25 feet from the hoop and the most basic of pick and rolls and post up and clear outs.

    I guess what I'm saying is, Byron pretty much is Mike Brown with angry post game speeches so far. He's Mike Brown with a cool demeanor. I'm not seeing a difference in philosophy though, horrible all Kobe offense, constantly talking defense that doesn't exist. He's not going anywhere though, so I hope he figures some stuff out and adjusts from this Mike Brown course, because I've seen this movie before and it sucks.
     
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    He's getting a free pass because he's a former Showtime Laker and all. Keep this up Byron...
     
    Kenzo, Nov 13, 2014
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    I know a lot of you dont like Byron right now, but tonight was the first time I actually really saw him pissed off during the post game press conference. I liked that he said if this continues in the next 3-4 games changes will be made. I know to those who already dislike him and think he wasn't the right hire dont care about this but at least he is willing to make changes whether its a system change and or player personnel changes.
     
    Battle Tested20, Nov 13, 2014
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    This is the (wrong) reason he was hired for ...
     
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    True .. It doesn't mean you don't have to try .... You can install principles on both ends off the floor and work on developping young players .

    If the coach mentality is " anyways we have little talent , we suck , let's play freestyle ball on the court and let Kobe chuck 25 shots from anywhere" , I don't see the point of showing up for games .

    I don't have a pb with losing with this roster , I'm realistic ... I do have a pb with playing disorganized ball and not showing the desire to do so.
     
    wcsoldier81, Nov 13, 2014
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    The worst defense I've ever seen from a Lakers team, for sure.
     
    karacha, Nov 13, 2014
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    I thought about that last night. This roster isn't good by any stretch. I understand that. However, let's make a comparison. Maybe I am wrong, and I'll gladly eat crow.

    OKC's starting 5 last night vs the C Bags Serge Ibaka, Lance Thomas, Steven Adams, Reggie Jackson, Jeremy Lamb

    Bench: Nick Collison, Sebastian Telfair, Kendrick Perkins, Andre Roberson, Anthony Morrow.

    Grant it, they've had an easier schedule than us, and I take that into consideration, but that is not a very talented roster for the most part at all. I don't even think Scott Brook is that great of a coach. Nevertheless, their 3-6. Not great, but their playing hard, developing talent, and in pretty much every game they play in.

    Point? Whatever talent we do have is not being maximized properly, IMO, and I think another coach who knew X' and O's better, managed minutes more responsibly, would give us a better chance than Scott is doing.
     
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    Scott... Brooks, isn't any better than Byron ;).
    We suck and our D is garbage. Take Booz out of the starting 5, get rid of Wes too. Do something because what we have now is NOT working.
     
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    I'm not comparing coaches...just the rosters between the two teams. As much as I don't think Brooks is great, I think he's doing a good job given the circumstances of where his team his at currently with all the injuries. I still think he's an average coach.
     
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    Byron gets a pass for me until he is dealing with more of a full squad and has more time to implement his system. We gave Antoni 2 freaking years. Brown only got one and a preseason, but he his substitution patterns were just inane and his cluelessness was obvious. Scott has done a better job than either of those two guys thus far IMO. I see our guys trying hard at least for stretches.

    The one glaring failure I am seeing is that he's given up regulating Kobe's minutes and that's a VERY big mistake. Can't do that. And it's not helping him win. He needs to lay off that crutch. Reel Kobe back in Byron. That's one of the reasons you are here. Otherwise we should have gone with a coach like Lionel Hollins who is adept at instilling a more balanced offense than what we've seen so far.
     
    lakerjones, Nov 13, 2014
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    This. I'm giving him a long leash. Let's see what happens with Young and to a lesser extent Kelly back. The offense looks terrible and last night the defense was bad, but besides this game I've seen this team get better pretty much every game they've played.

    This is a punted season anyway and I'm not going to expect much out of this s*** roster.
     
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    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1415903942.694091.jpg

    Might want to start making some adjustments Byron.
     
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    We were up before the second half where they went on a run, ending up down 3 at half time. Second half was just horrible, for many reasons. I mean were sitting here scheming, trying to realize every single thing that can help and or adjustments, in order to improve the team. Lets see what hes made out of...Quite honestly boys, lets wait until were 20 games into the season and almost a quarter of the season gone IMO.
     
    SFGOLDRUSHER, Nov 13, 2014
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    That's the point, this team isn't going to win 30 games with Kobe taking 30 shots. That's not an offense that's very hard to defend.
     
    fabulus, Nov 13, 2014
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    Yea I've seen enough of him from his time in Cleveland to not need 20 games to form my opinions.
     
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