The Official Byron Scott Coach Thread 2014-2015

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  1. LaVarBallsDad

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    I'm surprised he didn't threaten him with more suicides.
     
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    Geeze, if you're going to pull Clarkson for poor defense, how bout subbing in a defender. Lawson goes right around Lin like he's a traffic cone and Lin then turns the ball over like twice? Why isn't Price getting any burn?
     
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    The tank is in full effect...we're not trying to win any games. Get used to it.
     
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    I thought we were supposed to win the occasional game...on our home floor...against s***ty teams
     
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    Nope. All bets are off...when you see Mitch at college games doing scouting for potential draft prospects, the tank is in FULL effect. Our goal is to get in the top 2, IMO. The FO and Byron know this...so even against the teams that suck, every loss is beneficial at this point consider we're still in the 4th position in the tank standings and trying to move up.
     
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    How do you make a defensive sub when no one plays D? I still don't understand that one. Soon enough he's going to make a defensive sub, look down at his bench and realize there's nothing there, say screw it and pull a fan out of the crowd.
     
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    Not anymore. We're supposed to hit the rock bottom now.
     
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    Byron is serving two purposes:

    1. Building a team that works hard on the floor and
    2. Tanking like a mad man.

    When it's February and Mitch is already at a Kansas game, the tank is on. We're trying to lose. I don't think that means they've told Byron to lose, but they're probably told him to worry only about developing Clarkson, Kelly, and Black at this point. We're not helping Nick. We're not helping Wes. We're letting guys like Ellington, Davis, and Boozer earn paychecks...

    This is tanktastic.
     
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    Yeah... But why pull Clarkson in the last few minutes if there's no better alternative? Let the kid play in crunchtime. Unless he was blowing off some instructions and got benched for that. Yeah tank whatever but you can tank by leaving the young guys in and maybe lettem pull out a win at home for the paying fans. Just sayin.
     
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    They should refund tickets or start preparing for an empty arena for the second half of the season.
     
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    Despite our horrible season, Denzel and Flea were still at the same last night. LOL. I am sure they'll lower ticket prices but that's about the extent of it.
     
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    Yeah as long as celebs are there it's the place to be but it's F'd up.
     
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    I feel your pain. Really. But now it is what it is. We need not just this first round pick for ourselves and not Phoenix but man we need it up at the top, preferably with Okafor. Although to be honest, this guy to me especially on defense and even offense does not look like he really busts his a** out on the court consistently. Too many plays taken off and rebounds not chased and not hustling (very evident in some clips on transition to defense) He seems (to me) with the eye test to be one of those elite players since grade school that has had so much juice he's always been glad-handed and thinks it's not necessary to ball like that. Come to Lakers, it will be fixed in a hurry and we are looking GOOD as a destination spot once again.
     
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    We have to try and keep focusing on the long term and the best thing long term is getting a Top 5 pick. I hate all the losing, but it is the current reality of this team.

    With that in mind, I actually don't mind seeing the younger guys playing long minutes. We need to see what they can do and I think this playing time is going to pay dividends in the next couple of years.
     
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    Who's going to be on this team in the next couple of years where this is going to pay dividends? Black, Kelly, Clarkson, maybe Sacre. Heck, at the rate Scott's going he might not even be coaching this team in a couple of years, and it's that bad.

    The only 2 things that are going to come out of this year are Clarkson's development and the top 5 pick. If you want to see some changes in actual infrastructure and in foundation laying, look at what Stevens is doing in Boston. That's coaching...
     
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    ^ To be fair Stevens has a hell of a lot more young talent to work with and to mold. Guys who will still be in the league in 3-4 years. It would be different if Scott had Randle to focus on.
     
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    So, are we talking about players or schemes? Boston actually runs sets on both ends and has the young players developing the right habits and actually running principles that resemble modern NBA basketball. Oh, and if Scott switched position with Stevens with the same roster, I highly doubt the Scott would be producing the same results that Stevens has had...
     
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    Both. I don't think Scott is doing a great job by any means but he has a free pass this year and everyone knows that. He has them competing, playing hard, and holds some of them responsible. Most of those C Bags kids are important building blocks that will stay there. Lakers have a couple young players who will stay on as backups and nothing more. Why put in all this development into schemes and principles for players who either won't be there or won't play. Scott's current gig is to have them compete, but lose and evaluate who is worth keeping going forward.
     
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    Black, Kelly, Clarkson and maybe Duke (at the right price) are who I am eyeing right now.

    Its not that I think Byron is lighting the world on fire and I question quite a few things he has done to say the least. But, I can't just dismiss the fact that he has little talent and its obvious the front office wants to tank. Those things are definitely impacting his moves on the court.
     
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    He holds some of them responsible? He held a double standard when Kobe was playing; Kobe wouldn't get back on defense, but Scott wouldn't say a word. Another player does it and Scott calls them out. It speaks of more of a double standard than anything else. By the way, instead of talking to Boozer and or Lin about being benched, he said he didn't need too since he was the coach, right? That's fine. However, he sure spoke to Price about his DNP's and explained what his role was going to be going forward. Again, I don't think that's hold anybody responsible; it's a double standard. For the most part, I don't see him correcting anybody with X and O's and explaining their different responsibilities on the court; it's usually just run more suicides.

    I think the gig changed during the course of the season; the schemes he was running both offensively and defensive at the beginning of the season were pre-historic in modern NBA basketball and it was the same stuff he was running in Cleveland. Scott's playbook isn't that deep. By the way, why put in all the development and schemes for players who won't be here or won't play? It could be that installing your schemes and putting the guys int he best position to succeed would actually help; you could also effectively gauge what strengths and weakness they have and what works for them and what doesn't...

    It's all good, though. When we effectively tool this roster with more talent, it will become more obvious that he's inept at what he does...
     
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