The Official Byron Scott Coach Thread 2014-2015

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  1. trodgers

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    The problem with this preseason is that all but Kobe have missed time, so we're left without the personnel to follow through - at least now. I know Scott's building for the eventual payoff.
     
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    That win over Utah last night was NICE to see for Byron. Even with the short roster you could start to see the effect of the mentality on defense and hustling he has been banging into them. What a treat to again have a coach "sit" looking "calm" in his seat most of the time during games, rather than Potato Brown or wear-his-emotions-constantly-on-his-face 'Antoni .....both constantly stalking the sidelines uselessly. Byron "looks" in control. Same thing with his press conferences following games.... they are excellent. Trivial point, but I really like his look with the good looking coats, yet comfortable shirts or pullovers underneath, as opposed
    to too dressed up with ties and crap on the sideline. Fisher is wearing a freaking scarf in his suit coat, on the other end of the spectrum. Too much. Hope Scott keeps the look and it's not just for the pre-season. The guy has PRESENCE and is WELL SPOKEN. Next best thing to Phil in that regard, or unless we had Pop. Byron is proud but at least likable. But won't be much badgering or stupid questions thrown at Byron I have a feeling.
     
    LTLakerFan, Oct 20, 2014
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    At least with Byron I know what he's doing and why... because he's telling us everything he's doing and why. Not just that but they make sense. Brown didn't make sense. D'Antoni made almost no sense ever.

    We've had a lot of injuries so far. The offense has looked rough as a result. Defensively we finally got a glimpse of what we're supposed to look like and I enjoyed it. Were we playing against their 2nd string? Sure. Just like we were playing OUR second string.

    I like what Byron is doing so far. I'm still on board. Hopefully we get some guys back and we can get on the track we're supposed to be on.
     
    therealdeal, Oct 20, 2014
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    +1 to this right here, realdeal. Byron is making sense whereas those last two knuckleheads rarely did. If we can just get Lin and Swaggy back, we'll be in business.
     
    lakerjones, Oct 20, 2014
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    It's probably only going to be for the preseason. There's a dress code for coaches and it requires they wear collared shirts. Apparently it was put in place in 2010 because of Stan Van Gundy.
     
    CaCHooKa Man, Oct 21, 2014
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    OK thanks..... LOL at it being bought about by "Ron Jeremy's" sloppy dressing habits.

    Not a tie and scarf (whatever they are called.... [Derek Fisher]) in the suit coat chest pocket, right? I think (?) Pop just has the collared shirts and coats?
     
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    I'm glad we have Byron.

    I'd be unhappy with the master of panic.
     
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    I hope Davis blocks his **** then does a dance afterwards.
     
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    Or rips a "really big one" on the court. Dwight wouldn't know whether to fight back or "laugh". The fact he is thinking about it tells you all you need to know about Dwight. Hack his newly muscled again A** and put him on the line if we get to crunch time with game in question. What's the over under on the % he has improved his free throw shooting and "post game" this summer. Not worried about the free throws. If he somehow finally got some Dream in him and improved in the post.... that could be a problem.
     
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    So after reading this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_offense

    I still feel Johnson shouldnt be starting&need another capable shooter like *COUGH* Nick Young *COUGH*.. Boozer also almost doesnt seem like he fits the scheme but I suppose just barely enough of a capable shooter to be on the floor starting.

    Also makes me feel IMO if say Nicky does start Clarkson and Henry as our guards,Randle and Kelly as our forwards would be still solid. Thoughts?
     
    SFGOLDRUSHER, Oct 28, 2014
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    Their offense with the starting unit is really just based on the Princeton. They don't run it every time. Most of the time they just run the set so that Kobe can end up in the post. After that, it's read and react off of Kobe.

    1. They double Kobe- Kobe has to find the open man.
    2. The defense watches Kobe- dive to the rim for an easy look (Boozer is good at this)
    3. They stay one-on-one and Kobe burns 'em.
    etc. etc.

    I think Byron uses the Princeton just to encourage off the ball movement and it works pretty well. It'll work better as the season progresses. Right now I'm fine with the starting lineup and bench rotation. Until Wesley loses a game for us single handedly in the regular season, it's fine (especially with Young and Henry out). Until Julius becomes too important NOT to start, then I'm fine with him off the bench too.
     
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    Gotcha, well isnt that what the princeton consists of? A strong post player than reactions&ball movement from there based on taking what the defense gives you? Does Scott tend to run a hybrid or any other offenses mixed in?
     
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    Good
     
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    Hes stating the obvious and I love it because people are delusional about it. Like Kobe, I didnt really want Howard for the long hall because I know what type of player he is, period. The reason I was okay with resigning him is simply out of desperation and sort of sad to admit that. Everything happens for a reason, we dodged a bullet even if it takes you a little longer to realize it if youre a fan that thinks Dwight Howard is the big man that will put you in contention for a championship every year.
     
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    Yeah his offense is really based in the Princeton, but there's still plenty of other actions too. There's plenty of pick and roll with his teams and there's a little bit of the Triangle mixed in too for spacing. In fact the Triangle and the Princeton aren't too different when it's all said and done. They're system offenses designed around movement without the ball.

    Remember Byron has always used strong PG play. Whether it's Jason Kidd, Kyrie Irving, or Chris Paul, Byron has always utilized the pick and roll along with the Princeton offense.
     
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    Which the pick and roll can be highly effective with Lin running it but if offense is run through Kobe how is that going to work out? You think they have Kobe run the pick and roll by chance?
     
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    Yeah I'm sure Kobe will run some of the pick and roll when he has to. Mostly they'll run pick and roll with Lin/Davis though.

    I thought Byron did a poor job of getting Lin in opportunities in the first game. Lin/Kobe is a rough match. The offense is built to get Kobe the ball in the post, but Lin needs to be more aggressive to keep the defense honest. It's hard for him to do that in the starting unit. I think soon they ought to consider going back to Price in the starting unit because Price looked TERRIBLE trying to run the bench last night. Awful.
     
    therealdeal, Oct 29, 2014
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    I haven't really had the opportunity to sit down and watch the Lakers, so how is B. Scott looking? I suppose no post since 10/8 is a good sign...
     
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    It's gonna be tough to judge Scott this year because honestly speaking ... he doesn't have a lot to work with.

    I think the important thing is that we see progress from game to game within this team. Although the Clippers loss was a loss, the team looked much more like they all were on the same page at least offensively.

    It's tough to judge defensively right now because we don't have a true shot blocker (even Gasol could block/alter at times last season). But perhaps if we tighten up some of the rotations we can see improvements in that area. Team definitely has shown effort defensively ... it's about execution.
     
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