The Official Byron Scott Coach Thread 2014-2015

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  1. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

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    He's been doing it all season basically anyway. He's the only person creating offense on the team consistently for himself and for others.

    Basically all it is is an acknowledgement of what a bunch of have said: start shooters with Kobe so the floor can be spaced better. Kobe at "PG" just means putting Ellington into the starting lineup instead of Price who belongs on the end of the bench.
     
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    I said that yesterday in the chat yesterday while they were playing...I edited my original response and said he's the de-facto PG the point is really moot. Inserting Ellington will take another 15 games according to Byron, and what's the point of inserting Ellington when we're apparently trying to tank? Price is the perfect PG to start games if you're tanking.
     
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    I agree, that's why he's doing it. As much as we come on here and talk, we're not really professional NBA coaches and WE know that. So I have to assume at least one other person in the Lakers org. knows it too and they're letting Byron continue to start Price.

    We're not trying to win a lot of games, just a few here and there. We're still on track for a high pick and I think by the end of the season we'll have reached an entirely new low as a franchise. Starting Price or Ellington really won't change it too much, but starting Ellington would mean a couple more wins possibly.
     
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    If we fall out of the top 5, is that considered a failure of a season under Byron for those saying that he's 'tanking?'
     
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    Yes. That draft pick can be a huge first step in getting this team back in contention. If we lose it, then we just wasted a year of sucking.
     
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    No not really. It's not on the coach/players to tank. I think some of Byron's decision making has helped fuel a few loses this season, but I expect my coaches and players to always try to win. THAT is where the losing mentality can't foster. I don't know that we have a ton of "winners" in that locker room, but I sure hope they feel like they are.

    As an organization and an owner, if you field an awful team then you know what's likely going to happen.

    If we miss the pick and it ends up being 7th or 8th, then that's on Mitch and Jim for giving us just enough to miss the pick, but not enough to be competitive. That's THEIR job.
     
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    Yes, this was very frustrating to watch. Sometimes I almost want to yell at the screen, because there is no one near the 3-point shooter. I mean, I could hit most of my threes like this, and I'm not even kidding.
     
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    The no pg offense almost cost us the game. We beat the Spurs in spite of Byron's coaching.
     
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    hey byron, kobe isnt a point guard
     
    CaCHooKa Man, Dec 12, 2014
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    Byron was inspired to keep the Spurs in the game despite a 9 point deficit. His defensive strategy to force Kobe to be the Lakers ball handler was so shrewd. If only that pesky kid Swaggy P hadn't have got that 3 he would have got a win for his beloved Spurs. Oh wait............................this coaching turkey was lucky to escape thanksgiving.

    To be fair the players did perform this game. Some credit to him, but those smh choices are there. Does Byron have a Kobe poster over his bed or what. I agree with the more plays for Swaggy, and having them close out games sentiments.
     
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    He pulled out Lin who was playing pretty well to have Kobe be PG and that almost cost us the game.
     
    alam1108, Dec 12, 2014
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    Close game or not, a W and all, SA rivalry etc... Kobe won't last another 20 games.
    If he (Byron) is trying to lose games on purpose, it would be smart to tell that to the players, so they don't mess with his brilliant coaching.
     
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    It's Kobe most of the time. He rarely completes the rotations and forces the other guys to go across the court and cover for him. I don't know if he's just unable to do it, but he's frequently out of position defensively.
     
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    It's because he gambles on 2-3 suicide steals a game. Other times, he's just tired.
     
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    Definitely, but he's been a big reason why our defense has been terrible.
     
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    All the more reason to play him a few minutes less, right? Also, the reason for 3's is because at the beginning of the season it's systematically what we we're giving up a lot of...we improved in that area since Scott finally made some schematic changes to the defense.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Dec 13, 2014
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    I hope this means he's starting Elington next to Kobe and taking out Price. Otherwise, I don't get it
     
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    Starting Ellington would help...enough of this Price experiment. It is not working.
     
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    Terrible news. I guess those like 3 turnovers in a row with Kobe at PG meant nothing. I guess he doesn't realize part of the reason Kobe was exhausted was because he had to bring the ball upcourt with full court pressure multiple times. Brilliant. Lin did nothing to be demoted like this, and Price did nothing to earn the start.
     
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