The Official Byron Scott Coach Thread 2014-2015

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  1. Kingsama

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    That rotation strikes me as A) experimenting and B) letting Nash work out some rust then rest.
     
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    i think this is just for preseason

    plu si think nash didnt play much after because he said something didnt feel right

    but i think its because its preseason where you can tinker with everything. thats another reason why we didnt see much of davis today, i think hes's a lock already so in the following days i expect to see guys "fighting" for spots get the most minutes, kind of like to see who will prove themselves. the guys that are a lock wont need to see the floor much until we get closer to the season and b.scott starts making up his rotations to see who meshes well with each other a la lin & davis :)
     
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    We looked not organized at all on both sides off the floor ... midrange J's over 3s is a recipe for disaster ... defense was terrible at usual .

    The Wesley Johnson drifted midrange jumpshot officialy become the worst shot of the modern civilization .
     
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    honestly wesley should shoot as many 3's as shawn marion, maybe a little more.

    but since he came in this league, his J has been VERY unreliable. I remember couple people on CL were clamoring that his J got better.

    No, just please no. and no creating off the dribble. D, Slash, Open J. those are the only things he needs to do.
     
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    His jumper has improved. Watch his mechanics, it's much smoother and even when his shot isn't falling it looks better.

    Last night the whole team sucked offensively. I find it unfair to single out one player. Kobe's shots were hitting the front of the rim. Sacre is Sacre. Boozer has yet to shoot 50% for us from the field I think in three games. Etc. Etc.
     
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    I don't want Wes taking any off dribble jumpers. He should be limited to a Trevor Ariza role. Play defense, without fouling a jumpshooter (WHY DOES HE DO THIS SO MUCH), and on offense, cut to the basket (FINISH YOUR DUNKS), and spot up shots.
     
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    I don't disagree at all. I didn't say I loved his off-the-dribble jumpers, I hate that. It's not his game. I just said his mechanics look a lot better this season and it's unfair to pick on only one Laker after that horrid game. The whole team looked awful.

    You're 100% right and that's been my vision for him for years now. I still don't understand how nobody has asked Coop to come down and give him some pointers in his free time. Wesley has all these physical gifts and his mentor is Kobe Bryant. Therefore when he gets out there he thinks he should be Kobe. Why?

    I keep drawing this parallel because it fits too damn well: This season Dee Gordon was an All-Star for the Dodgers because he embraced his role. Get on base any way you can, then steal bases like there's no tomorrow. There's no shame in being a ground-ball hitter. None at all. Not everyone hits home-runs.

    I don't know why Wesley can't look at film of Michael Cooper and say there's no harm in being a defensive specialist and a spot up shooter. I'm disappointed that the lesson hasn't been driven home for him yet.
     
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    Outside his shot mechanics, I haven't seen much improvement from last season yet.

    I hope Xavier comes back healthy and takes that starting SF spot from Wes. I'd rather have an undersized SF who plays 100% in his role than one that still doesn't understand what he needs to do.
     
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    I always imagine kobe drawing a double from the post and dishing to a cutting wes for dunk.

    sigh
     
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    Wes is a role player in a starting position...but going into this season, I figured we'd have to run a Small Forward/Center by committee this season. Wes, Henry, Nick, even Kobe playing at the 3...we'll just have to make due with what we have and figure out what combination of players in what positions gives us the best chance to win games.
     
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    Bryant and Scott Break it Down

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    by Mike Trudell
    Lakers Reporter
    Posted: Oct 13, 2014

    How much can be taken from a preseason game that comes two weeks before the start of the regular season?

    That's the question Byron Scott and his coaching staff were asking themselves after a second-straight loss to Golden State, one that came in a major blowout (116-75).

    But Scott's been coming to NBA training camps since the early 1980s, and said he knows not to be overly concerned given the circumstances of the roster, even if he's not amused by two poor performances against a very good Warriors team.

    ”I don’t have a level of concern right now, to be honest with you, because I have to look at it with a grain of salt," Scott explained. "We’ve been together two weeks. I think we have probably five guys on this team that were here last year. So it’s gonna take us some time to gel.

    ”It’s gonna take us some time for guys to understand what their roles are and what they’re supposed to do. … I just know we gotta continue to work. Two weeks from today, we’ll be a lot better than we are today.”

    Excuses aren't going to matter much if the Laker play poorly and lose regular season games that count, but for right now, there are certainly some mitigating circumstances.

    Among them: the Lakers had five players — Nick Young, Jeremy Lin, Xavier Henry, Jordan Clarkson and Ryan Kelly — miss the game with injuries, and starting point guard Steve Nash wasn't able to play after the first quarter; Kobe Bryant has now played three games since last December and is still working out his individual kinks; and the coaches are gradually putting in more stuff on each end of the floor that takes time.

    Bryant offered another explanation after Sunday's game.

    ”As you saw tonight, it was a little tough to get our legs underneath us," said Bryant. "We’ve been pushing pretty hard. I think everybody kind of has heavy legs. We practice really, really hard. We practiced today really hard for an hour and a half … scrimmaged, ran … it's still training camp mode for us. We're still pushing our legs pretty hard.”

    Bryant knows that eventually Scott will start "tapering down," which was not the case on Sunday.

    ”The one thing I wanted to do against Golden State: We had a good, hard practice that morning, and then we had to play against a very good basketball team, so mentally it was a challenge," the coach explained. "And also physically it was a challenge. But I think the guys understand or they’ll start to understand, and in a week from here they’ll start feeling so much better about their legs and they’ll be in so much better shape, and physically and mentally they’ll be in a better place.
     
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    Ding is a pretty good writer. Well done.
     
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    Yeah, that was definitely a great read. Thanks for the post, I might have missed it.
     
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    Thanks, I really enjoyed the read.

    BTW, I did not know they had a full practice before the game against GSW. Considering that and what Kobe mentioned (not being able to get their legs underneath them), I think it's definitely too early to panic about this team (as some seem to), even though this blowout was kind of Pringlesesque. I'm not an expert on conditioning by any means but hope Scott knows what he's doing. Hopefully all this preseason workouts lead to great conditioning and we see a different team out there when the season starts than what the last few games might suggest.
     
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    Yeah, to me it's counterintuitive to tire them out when they have to play probably the most explosive offensive team in the league. But it's just pre-season and if the ends justify the means with better conditioning for the real season, then fine. Too early for me to seriously question what Byron is doing. He has a larger goal in mind.
     
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    Preseason is pretty frustrating, but it is only the preseason. I would love to see the actual rotations that Coach is gonna use because I doubt any coach would play their "Second Unit" against GS starters the whole second quarter. Make cuts, shorten the rotation.. in due time.. in due time. :tmi:
     
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    Exactly. It also suggests Scott doesn' give a bleep about the outcome of this game. IMO, he's right if that's the case, especially against one of the better teams in the West.

    Also, considering the amount of injuries we had the previous two seasons and the amount of new players, this is basically a completely new team, with a new system on top of it. Maybe the Lakers need to invest more time than most teams to sort of figure out what works and what doesn't, hence e.g. the strange lineups.
     
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    I'm just really hoping that 10 games into the season as he's brought down the work load of the practices that it's benefits us greatly and that the players are in amazing shape.

    While the rise in advanced stats points to 3 pointers being important parts of the game, free throws and layups are still the 2 most efficient methods of scoring in the NBA.

    Maybe if we're able to pile on the FT's and the scoring inside we won't need so many 3's?

    I just don't know if we'll be able to score that much in those areas.
     
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