Tank Tank Or Tank Tank Tank?

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To Tank Or Not To Tank?

  1. Tank.

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  2. Don't tank.

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  3. Fine with either outcome.

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  1. abeer3

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    i like fultz and smith more than ball, but any of them is really going to help the sixers. fml
     
  2. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

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    I think Fultz is more talented than Ball, but Ball is very good. I like the headiness he plays the game with. I'm nervous about Ball's jumper though. It's weird.

    I'm not into Smith. Tatum looks like Rudy Gay sort of to me. Jackson I'm still not sure about either.
     
  3. ElginTheGreat

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    Jackson is really good. He needs a jumper but he plays with a lot of energy and would instantly be one of our best defenders if not the best (not saying much, but still)
     
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    I'm not spending one nanosecond researching potential draft picks like I have the past 3 years to soften the disappointment of we give philly our pick.
     
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    I think I like Fultz the most in the draft, but I'd be happy with Ball too.
     
  6. ElginTheGreat

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    Yeah, I'm not expecting to keep the pick at all. I still like watching college hoops. Maybe even more so lately with us struggling so much over the last few seasons.
     
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    We should be shopping our vets for a late first rounder from a contender.
     
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    I'm in the same boat, but if we get past Feb and into March still at the bottom of the standings I'll start to pay attention. Even though we are currently # 2 in the Tankathon standings we have 32-34 games remaining and I still think we're going to get better and more a fair share of games.
     
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    If we finish 2nd, we have 55% chance to keep our pick?
     
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    I think Lou has more value this summer as an expiring.

    Nick? I don't think any tram is giving us a late first rounder for him. IMO.
     
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    Hmmm. Good point on Lou.
     
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    1st: 64.2%
    2nd: 55.8%
    3rd: 46.9%
    4th: 37.8%

    According to wikipedia.
    I was going off of tankathon which has different numbers. Tankathon says it's 64.2%, 51.6%, 51.4%, and 33.6% respectively.

    Weird.
     
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    I think someone like the Cavs could give us a 1st for Lou, but they already traded their pick away. I can't see many other teams willing to give up a 1st to chase the 2nd place in the conference. I just don't see any buyers.

    Nick Young probably gets you a 2nd or two or something.
     
  15. ElginTheGreat

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    One thing our front office has shown an ability to do over the last couple of seasons is identify good prospects later on in the draft. Not sure who we'd be trading, but if the shot at a late first rounder comes up I think we should go for it.
     
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    If it's a mid first rounder I'd consider it but I think Lou has more value than a late first rounder. Nick is expiring and probably looking for a payday so I'd trade him for a bag of chips.

    Clarkson probably has the most value for a team looking for guards. I wonder if Philly would consider trading one of Saric/Okafor/Noel + our/their pick for Clarkson.
     
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    Restrictions off our pick plus Noel/Okafor/Saric for a 6th man (which is all Clarkson really is) is complete and utter rape. Clarkson isn't worth taking the restrictions off the pick for, let alone throwing in a young center. You might get Noel or Okafor for Clarkson AND Lou.
     
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    I disagree. Clarkson's market value is much higher than Okafor or Noel. Check their stats.

    Clarkson: 13.9 pts 2.8 reb 2.1 ast
    Okafor: 11.2 pts 4.8 reb 1.0 ast
    Noel: 7.4 pts 4.4 reb 0.8 ast

    Given that everyone and their mom knows how desperate Philly is to get rid of their two bigs, and their obvious need for a quality guard, Clarkson would be a godsend for them.
     
  19. therealdeal

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    1. There's no way Lou is worth a mid-first rounder in this climate. The new CBA establishes a desperate need to build through the draft. High end players are extraordinarily unlikely to move because of the money they can get to stay. That leaves middling players in FA who will need top money to change teams. A middle first is a strong asset these days, even a late 1st is a good asset. So the question is, what team is willing to give up a good asset for a sixth man candidate that is unlikely to push them over the top of the Warriors in the West and the Cavaliers in the East. The Rockets? The Wizards? Boston? Oklahoma? The Clippers? How many teams think they're actually strong enough to compete at the highest level and need Lou's particular boost? The list isn't long. Then of those teams, who has a pick that they can even part with that would be useful to us? That list is even shorter.

    2. Clarkson is absolutely, without a doubt, not worth Noel AND taking off the restrictions on the pick. No way. Not even close. This draft is full of strong guard prospects and the Sixers have a good shot at getting one with our pick or with their pick. Why would they take Clarkson, a player who is already regressing after a payday, when they can get the guy they really want in the draft? Just because they want to move Noel, doesn't mean they'll sacrifice a shot at Ball or Fultz or Smith or Monk, etc.
     
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    Teams that are in the same situation as us; too many young players to develop, and not enough vets. ie Minnesota, Orlando, Milwaukee, C Bags, etc.

    The league views Clarkson differently. Listen to the broadcast of our road games. They always praise Clarkson. And his struggles are viewed as him sacrificing for the greater good of our team. If Clarkson isn't enough, give them both Clarkson and Lou. I doubt they'd find a better prospect in the draft. Is Hezonja or Mudiay, a 5th and 7th pick respectively, a better player than Clarkson/Lou?
     
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