Star Wars Thread (a Galaxy Far Far Away) Obi-Wan Movie In The Works! (36)

That episode was so good. So good.

Completely agree with your breakdown.

Ahsoka vs Baylon is instantly the best live action light saber duel we have had in what seems like forever. Baylon was actually imposing and menacing. I love the way they are making him such a complex villain. Giving him a moral code too is just a great touch. Makes me that much more sad that the actor has passed away. Unlike the sequel trilogy, the tv shows have delivered some good villains in Baylon and Moff Gideon. I am optimistic that they are going to really take it to the next level with Thrawn.

And you're spot on about Sabine as opposed to Rey. We are actually being taken through Sabine's journey. She's not just a perfect character being dropped out of nowhere that we are all told to just like and not question how she can instantly do everything. I like seeing Sabine combining her Mandalorian and Jedi training. I also like that she can't just instantly use the force like a Jedi Master unlike other characters. lol.

Training. Learning from mistakes. Struggling and then ultimately winning. These are all just core things that should be a part of Star Wars. Any director, show runner, writer, etc who doesn't understand that should be shown the door, I don't care who they are or how big their name is.

I can ramble on all day about that episode. For the first time in a while I actually instantly wanted to watch an episode of Star Wars again. It also made me feel like my hopes for the franchise turning things around might actually be more than just wishful thinking. lol.

I don't know if they will go all the way and reboot things but I've got to think that even the people at Disney can see what gives them the best response from Star Wars. Just give us what we want and stop trying to force this other stuff down our throats. The formula is straight forward and you've got a guy in Filoni who knows how to craft stories that feel like Star Wars. Stop overthinking this by bringing in people who don't get Star Wars and just hand the man the keys to the car.

 

Also really enjoyed last night's episode, its so refreshing to see Star Wars fans excited about a project again.

I love bringing Anakin in at this moment. I've mentioned how the version of Ahsoka played by Dawson that we see in Mando season 2 and the first three episodes of Ahsoka doesn't feel like the Ahsoka we see in Clone Wars or Rebels. I thought about it more and realized that we really don't see much of Ahsoka between her fight with Vader in Rebels Season 2 and her talking to Ezra in the world between worlds in the last season of Rebels. It makes sense to me now that this version of Ahsoka would be more stoic, more serious, and more accepting of the conventional Jedi wisdom around foregoing attachment and putting the greater good above personal feelings because she thinks not doing so is why Anakin became Vader. It's why she's hesitant to train Sabine (who's also developed attachments to her found family) and Grogu (who's developed the attachment to Mando). Anakin becoming Vader impacted her that deeply, and kind of in the opposite way it impacted Obi Wan who at the beginning of Kenobi has given up being a Jedi (not that I think Kenobi is good, it sucks lol).

Maybe Ahsoka talking to Anakin in this next episode is what sets her straight again. She gets closure on his turn. I always though Ahsoka represented the path Anakin should have taken, leaving the Order but still fighting for good and the people she cares about. Maybe Anakin restores her faith in that path, which is why we eventually see her at Luke's Jedi academy (which I'm pretty sure happens after this show chronologically, I think Favreau said somewhere that Grogu is with Luke for a year before Mando shows up in Book of Boba Fett).

 

Finally got around to finishing Jedi Survivor and it’s one of my favorite Star Wars stories in quite some time, arguably game of the year IMO

I think this is finally going to motivate me to check out Andor

 

I'll revisit the video when the series is over but I don't know that I agree with the overall point made.

For me, this is a pretty blatant sequel to The Clone Wars and Rebels. Because of that, the appearances of old characters make sense for me and it doesn't come across as just fan service.

The world between worlds is controversial and I get that. But I honestly like the concept and bringing in more sci fi concepts into Star Wars.

I feel like the problem with the sequel trilogy (well, one of many problems actually) was trying way too hard to separate itself from the history of Star Wars and it ended up running the whole franchise into a ditch. It's almost like they just decided that everyone from before sucks and we're going to run them into the ground in favor of our new picks. I also think the sequel could have benefited much more from using the OG characters. Kylo idolized Vader but we never see anything other than a patched together helmet. We never got to see the original trio again.

And honestly, if you really wanted to paint Luke as giving up on the force, we should have seen that journey. We needed to see what actually happened that made Luke feel like killing Kylo might be the only answer. Show Kylo destroying the Jedi Order, forming the Knights of Ren, etc. That would have been much more interesting than whatever was going on in Canto Bight and useless characters like Maz Kanata and DJ.

I like taking the old characters and mixing in new elements. For me, I feel like a lot of interesting stuff that hasn't been explored on screen is being seeded here from the witches to the new galaxy.

I totally understand that it may not work for everyone, but I am enjoying this one overall.

 

Also, if I had to grade it right now, I'd probably give Ahsoka a 7 or 8 out of ten. It's not perfect, but its a such a large step up from the 2s, 3s, and 4s we've been getting that fans are reacting big time to it. That and that the issues with it are pretty fixable. They can tweak this and keep things going in a good direction (hopefully one that at least soft reboots the sequels).

I think its going to end up being very important to the overall direction of star wars and I'm good with that.

 

MauLer is great, I really enjoy his videos and agree with his criticisms of media 99% of the time. His stuff on the sequel trilogy is awesome. I know that if I sit and think about it, some of the writing/characterization in Ahsoka doesn't hold up. I enjoyed the Anakin/Ahsoka stuff in episode 5, but did think that Ahsoka's reaction to seeing Anakin was way too understated. But I still like the show because I think its hitting the themes/tones of Star Wars pretty well.

 

Just realized Boba Fett is the voice of Moana’s dad. Sorry, random.

 

Now that is has wrapped up, I would still give Ahsoka a solid 7.5.

Good show overall with some things I loved and some things that were meh.

There are some very interesting threads they have put into place here though. I remember hearing that Lucas gave Disney a treatment for the sequel treatment that they completely ignored. I feel like Filoni is trying to work in those concepts and build something here that could really be great in the end. We will see.

Ahsoka does not single handedly save Star Wars. It is more like hitting a double to me which is a significant step up from all the whiffs that Disney Star Wars has produced. Hopefully they can really take it to the next level as we keep moving this story along.

 

It's weird for me. While they overemphasize things for effect here (and I'm a huge fan of these video breakdowns), yes, they moved slowly.

But other than a few scenes it didn't bother me when I was actually watching it. I feel like Dawson needs more work but I actually really loved how Baylan used the lightsaber. His movements had "heft" like the lightsaber had real weight to it making him come across like this lumbering but unstoppable force. It's hard to describe but you feel the threat he presents every time he shows up on the screen.

I hate that the actor passed away but I'm hoping they recast that character.

Overall, if you aren't a Filoni fan and/or didn't like the cartoons, then this won't change your mind but I overall I thought the series was solid and enjoyed it.

 

Yeah. I tend to agree with that. They need more work.

 

This is about how I feel as well. It could have been a 9 or 10 show, but there was definitely some lackluster writing (I hate that Ezra was basically filled in on everything that happened with the rebellion off-screen, and that he's extremely one-dimensional in the few episodes we see him) and wooden acting performances, but there was fun stuff and the Baylan character is great (except for him abruptly telling Shin to get lost out of nowhere, which was weird). My main concerns going forward are:

1. I still don't know if they've gotten Thrawn right. I'm concerned he's going to be original Zahn trilogy Thrawn, highly competent but clearly a bad guy, instead of now-canon Thrawn that really isn't evil at all and cares only about protecting the Chiss Ascendancy. Having him be the former would be fine if Disney didn't banish that stuff to non-canon and commission new books where he is the latter.
2. If they're really going to do original Zahn trilogy Thrawn character/plot, you have to have Luke, Han and Leia. You cannot just have these lame contrivances where C3PO comes in to deliver a message on Leia's behalf. The de-aged Luke in BoBF was okay, but Luke needs to be the main character if you're going to do that particular story. You can't inexplicably turn canon Thrawn into Legends Thrawn and do the Heir to the Empire plot while leaving out Luke, Han and Leia or reducing them to cameos. Doesn't work. Just recast them.

 

Agreed.

I'm fully on board with a recast at this point. I think it just makes sense and it moves us closer to some level of reboot.

I'm curious to what Thrawn they are building toward as well.

A real Star Wars movie with a recast Luke leading the way against a competent Thrawn is my quiet dream here.