Star Wars Thread (a Galaxy Far Far Away) Obi-Wan Movie In The Works! (36)

Oof. Not good. Disastrous is more like it. 1.2 million in 6 days is par with Andor's numbers of just under a million in 4 days. This was supposed to "save" Star Wars.

 

For me the 2 episode premiere was the definition of mediocre. The 2nd episode was a bit better than the first, and then when I saw that Filoni didn’t direct it it made sense why. For me, I’m pretty set that he isn’t a live action director, and he isn’t the heir apparent to Lucas. The first episode was so slow and boring, Ahsoka solving Indiana Jones puzzles was not entertaining, it was boring (the whole map thing was dumb too, it’s just the sith dagger in TROS all over again, it makes no sense). We get EIGHT episodes of this show, and yet just like on Mando there is so much filler, characters talk so slow, then there’s a 3-5 second pause and someone will finally reply. Ahsoka stands their arms crossed making thinking faces and finally says something, it is AWFUL. They could have easily condensed these 2 episodes into 1.

I find myself wondering while watching it who is this for, who is this meant to appeal to, it’s like The Eternals of Star Wars, sooo slow. The only thing for me that brings it up from bad to mediocre is it had some good action, some decent suspense, and the Baylan and Shin characters are somewhat interesting. But I’m sorry, Filoni is nonsensical in his writing, it’s an embarrassing level. If you want to say it’s meant for children and is just live action Rebels, fine, I’ll give that to you, but it’s not really marketed that way.

One example is the opening with Baylan, why does the captain of the ship transporting a dangerous prisoner allow the people with the old Jedi code to board? That would not happen, it’s idiotic, they would ask them to identify themselves and shoot them down if they presented a threat, but it’s Filoni and Disney, so they’re morons. Another example is Sabine acting like a spoiled teenager, isn’t she supposed to be like in her 30’s at this point? None of these characters really act like their animated counterparts if you ask me. I thought the part with Sabine playing chicken with an X-Wing while rock music blasted in the background to inform us that she’s a rebel who won’t be told what to do! was so wildly out of place and cringy I almost turned it off right there. And then her taking the map from Ahsoka to go work on it on her own, like a petulant teenager, “you won’t tell me what to do Ahsoka, I know best!”, and immediately she gets in trouble and stabbed and yet survives… Another example is that moron yelling “for the empire!” before attempting to shoot Hera/Ahsoka, if he’d just shot he may have hit them, but no he has to announce his intentions because Disney thinks their audience are 5 years old.

I could nitpick all day, (I really could, barely scratched the surface here, like Sabine trained as a jedi? Huh? What?), but I’ll just finish with some of my biggest “why”s. Why if Thrawn is such a big threat and Ahsoka needs help does she go to Hera and not involve Luke? Luke Skywalker, along with Leia, Han, Lando, etc, is the hero of the rebellion, yet he’s just like not around for stuff like this? There’s a threat of the empire returning and they don’t bother to give him a call, and if they do he’s too busy? F off, Disney. Why tell the Heir to the Empire story over again without those characters? I’m supposed to laud Filoni for stealing that story and inserting his own characters? Yeah, no.

I’ll keep watching because I did like Rebels, but if it doesn’t get better this is the last Star Wars show for me except for Andor, that’s the only Star Wars show I have liked, Mando season 3 ruined the whole series. I would say maybe Star Wars just doesn’t work in tv form if it weren’t for Andor, if we didn’t have that I’d be certain of it, it’s a movie franchise. Disney Star Wars isn’t real Star Wars anyway though, only the stuff George made counts for me, the rest is just what if type stuff, I enjoy Andor and Rogue One, but not much else. Last second thought, I don’t like how any of Disney Star Wars TV looks, it’s all very dull colors, bland and grey, almost like a hazy filter is over everything. The originals were beautifully shot, and at least colorful in the case of the prequels.

 

Forgot to post this above. I don’t always agree with The Critical Drinker, but I do think he makes some very good videos sometimes. I agree with a lot of his take on Ahsoka, STOIC



this is a good recap too for anyone that doesn’t want to watch it but wants to see what it’s about

 

Most hardcore fans have already sworn off it. Hence the terrible rating of Andor and Ahsoka.

 

For me episode 3 was the best one yet, but there’s still way too much fundamental stuff that bugs me. Like why is the new republic so dumb, why are they against checking to see if Thrawn is a threat? A government that just came out of a war I would think would be on high alert and check out everything to be sure, but no they learned no lessons from Palpatine. Why didn’t Shin just try to shoot Ahsoka’s ship down rather than her on the wing, that’s moronic, just shoot the engines and blow it up, don’t aim for the tiny person on it. Stuff like that irks me to no end because it insults the intelligence of the audience, it looks cool so they think we’ll just ooh and ahh and take it.

It was a better episode though, I thought the characters were more like their animated versions, there was some humor finally in their interactions and Hera got more to do for example, to show more emotion. Thought the action was solid overall as well, but it was too short, they wasted so much time in the first 2 episodes IMO and now there are only 5 left. So yeah much plot progression for me in this one, but it was fun I guess.

 

This issue with Star Wars though is it's not just a series of bad movies. Those bad movies fundamentally changed the very story and ethos of Star Wars. Star Wars was the rise, fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker with the help of his son where he kills the Emperor and brings balance to the Force and peace to the galaxy. That's it. That's the story. Now? now Anakin not only didn't bring balance to the Force, but the man he thought he killed has a grand daughter who kills the Emperor instead. SHE is now the hero of the story. All Luke and Anakin did was slow the Empire/First Order down for a while. How can we go back to loving Star Wars when the very thing that made Star Wars what it was has been radically changed?

Disney made the mistake of thinking people like Star Wars because of pew-pews and laser swords. But that's not what Star Wars is. It's Luke. It's Han. It's Leia. And now...it's none of those things.

 

Haha thanks LT, I am very passionate about Star Wars, which is why it bothers me so much what Disney has done with it. They wasted the last shot at having Luke, Han, and Leia together and made a sequel trilogy without a plan, all to sell toys and pump up their new characters nobody even liked because modern Disney doesn’t understand how to make characters people identify with or like. Then on top of that they built all their Star Wars lands in Disney parks based on the sequels nobody likes instead of around the time tested original trilogy everyone loves. I just see very little hope for Disney Star Wars until Kennedy, Iger, and so many others up top there are gone and actual skilled people are brought in. Or even if they let George Lucas make one last movie, no interference, there’d be some hope there, maybe even let him write them a manual for things not to do in Star Wars for all future people that work on it, like the sort of general philosophy it needs to have and basic stuff that just doesn’t work to stay away from. Will never happen, but that’s IMO the sort of thing that needs to happen to keep it on the right track, he’s the creator, he should get to make the Star Wars bible haha.




Really though I think it’s a Hollywood at large problem, not many seem to be able to write golf characters or good stories anymore, or if they do they’re working for companies that allow for that, and when they sign up for Star Wars they’re handcuffed in what they’re allowed to do. I think the only thing that eventually changes that is what we’re seeing now, flop after box office flop for Disney, and them losing billions on Disney+, eventually shareholders will say enough is enough like they did near the end of Eisner’s time there.