Star Wars Thread (a Galaxy Far Far Away) Obi-Wan Movie In The Works! (36)

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  1. Helljumper

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    Anyone play Star Wars Jedi: Survivor?

    It’s had a controversial release due to EA seemingly rushing it and launching it with performance issues, but I just started playing it and have had a great time so far.

    Some of the cinematography on the cutscenes early on have been on par with what I’d expect from a blockbuster Star Wars movie, and when I’m on point with the combat it’s some of the most satisfying light saber mechanics to ever exist in a game.

    I also just like Cal Kestis as a protagonist, and the general plot around this timeframe of the SW universe (between Episode III and IV). Disney bringing him into one of the TV series may be what could finally persuade me to catch up on all these Disney+ series
     
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    No worries. I wasn’t offended.
     
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    Yeah. Him and Doomcock (Overlord DVD) are grifters. Some of the stuff they report is so ridiculous. If I remember correctly, there was a video where Mike Zeroh said someone found a thumbdrive in a parking lot that had all sorts of top secret information for future Star Wars projects. Doomcock will quote insiders that somehow have knowledge of private conversations that happen with nobody around.

    Don't watch them. They're grifting off of people's hope that Star Wars will somehow be saved. It won't.
     
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    I'm not sure about this. I think if Indy 5 bombs, she will be asked to leave and it will be framed as a "Well-earned Retirement." We know Indy 5's production budget is at least 300 million. It's probably considerably more. If that movie makes like 575-600 million, it would be a loss of at least 150 million. With the disarray Star Wars is in, and Indy 5 bombing (Heck, they took the Willow TV show of Disney+ because it was more valuable as a tax write off than as content on a streaming service that has very little new content), I think she's out...in a way where she saves face obviously.
     
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    I think she’s bulletproof man, I think she has dirt on someone or something. I cannot imagine doing as bad a job as she has, from all outward appearances actively TRYING to damage the brand and ruin the franchise and still getting a new contract like she did. Refusing to use Luke Skywalker in any movies or shows for more than a few minutes, making a new Rey movie when people can’t stand that character and do not buy the toys for the sequels. Continuing to push the High Republic era nobody gives a s*** about, making Star Wars Land from the sequels and not from the classic films, the Galactic Starcruiser debacle. All this happened on her watch and not a thing has happened to her, and I don’t see it changing. She runs Lucasfilm like she hates George and Spielberg and has had a grudge against them for years and now gets to destroy what they’ve built with glee, and Disney REWARDS it. I dunno, I think Iger may be just as big a moron as her, that’s why nothing changes, Disney is just as big a joke right now as well.
     
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    Maybe. It is nuts to think how every single project other than Force Awakens has been an abject failure. And looking back, even Force Awakens is a bad movie due to the backstory that was applied to it by the next two movies. And that movie made bank due to it being the first Star Wars in over a decade and Disney's massive marketing machine.

    How can someone have EVERYTHING (UNLIMITED funds, the right actors, the biggest IP) and still just continue to bungle stuff over and over. Even the first two seasons of The Mandalorian, while adequate, are still rather uninspired (other than the Luke rescue scene at the end of season 2).

    You had the original cast and a giant pile of money. Star Wars should have been a layup.
     
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    Disney is a joke right now, and Hollywood as a whole isn’t far behind, a lot of these writers and directors are hacks. Like JJ Abrams, it’s his fault we never got Luke, Han and Leia together again, he stuck Luke on that island because he “overshadowed” all the other characters when he was onscreen again. He also made Han a deadbeat dad and undid all his character growth across the OT, just lazy, lazy writing.

    As for Kennedy, I just think she’s extremely arrogant and was handed SW by George and said “I’m going to make my own Star Wars, all new characters, all my philosophies and ideas and it’s going to be BETTER than George’s!”, but in reality she’s a moron. I mean they accepted the first draft of TLJ, Johnson had bragged about that, nobody does that. They went into the sequels with no plan. Boba Fett was boring, Obi-Wan was an abomination, Solo was unnecessary, really only Rogue One is good and from what I’ve read the only one Lucas liked. And yeah, Mando is ok, but nothing special, and now after season 3 there’s no real reason to rewatch, knowing how it ends. Filoni isn’t much better to me either, rather than coming up with original stories now he’s just doing Heir to the Empire but giving Luke’s part to his Rebels characters, f*** him.

    The whole LucasFilm story group is a joke as well, that famous whiteboard shot of their ideas is laughable, just a bunch of hacks with agendas trying to tell their personal stories rather than universal stories, which is what made the OT so good. Personally I’m done with Star Wars, aside from bashing it and hoping it goes down in flames and Disney has to sell it off at some point. I’ll finish Andor because it’s tied to Rogue One and extremely well made, but after that I’m out. The only thing that would make me watch is if they brought George back and let him write and direct something.
     
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    I wouldn’t be so quick to write off Filoni’s movie, there are some rumors that the guy who played Han in Solo will be playing him in Filoni’s movie too so maybe Luke/Han/Leia will be in it after all. I’m hoping they keep those three as the main characters with Ahsoka is a stand in for Mara Jade and Mando/the Mandalorians replacing Talon Karrde and the smugglers.

    Who knows though, I’ve gotten my hopes up a bunch of times over the last few years only to be disappointed. Kenobi might have been even more deflating for me than the sequel trilogy.
     
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    Nothing could have deflated me more than The Last Jedi. It's where my 35 year love affair with Star Wars died.
     
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    Yeah that's still probably my low point too. Kenobi is close for me though; I'm a prequels guy so seeing how little effort and consideration was put into that show was unbelievable too me.
     
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    That honestly sounds awful to me, it would be jarring and weird to go from OT Han back to Mini-Han for that movie. I agree on Kenobi though, easily the worst thing Disney Star Wars has put out, absolute garbage writing, acting, visual effects, it did actual harm to the prequels and the character of Obi-Wan in general, so much so that I have to pretend it doesn’t exist, same as the sequel films.
     
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    Yeah it would definitely be a huge downgrade from Harrison Ford, but I'd rather have a recast version of the character in the story then not have him at all.

    Its still unfathomable to me how anyone, let alone presumably an entire crew of people at a successful media company, could have Hamill, Fisher and Ford all willing to reprise their roles for the sequel films and then decide to not have one scene with the three of them together across three movies.
     
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    I think I’d rather not have Han at all than Mini-Han. They’d most likely only ruin the character even more, I’m good with them leaving the “legacy” characters totally out of it, they just constantly damage them when they use them. IMO Disney damaged Han in TFA as much as they did Luke in TLJ, made him a deadbeat dad that left his family and then killed him when he tried to do the right thing. Now I’m annoyed again, f*** Disney :D
     
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    Literally ran back his entire character arc from the OT. We meet Han in ANH and he's a smuggler who only cares about himself and Chewie as he is off doing his own thing. Fast forward to TFA...ditto.
     
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    (takes deep breath) ...after revisiting it in the last year....I kinda sorta like Solo.... (dodges tomatoes)
     
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    I tend to agree with this. Indy bombing should do it and if it doesn't then I really have no clue what would at this point.

    She never had a vision for Star Wars and that has shown from the start.

    But worse, she is also clearly out of touch with what audiences respond to. We're about to see that yet again with Indy. She clearly again thought she had a hit on her hands by debuting it at Cannes and it's about to be a dud at the box office.

    As you laid out, the one thing Disney likes more than anything is money and they aren't getting enough from their investment right now.

    I think we will finally see some changes coming as Lucasfilm is facing the worst thing they could and that is complete fan apathy to the product at this point.
     
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    After watching Feloni and Favreau give us the real Luke Skywalker in the Mandalorian, I'm open to their take on Mini-Han.

    My deep down hope is that they can knock this movie out of the park. The Mandalorian hasn't been perfect by any means, but overall, its one of the two or three things Disney has actually done that feel like Star Wars with creators who care and have a real vision for the characters.
     
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    I never hated Solo. It wasn't awesome, but it wasn't terrible. I like seeing more of the crime syndicate stuff, I was hoping that was what Book of Boba Fett would be about but it somehow was not.

    I thought Alden Ehrenreich did a decent enough job as Han. Its really hard to step into the shoes of an iconic character played by an iconic actor like that. If they're going to do an Heir to the Empire adaption move, I do think they need to recast Luke too. I just don't think the main character of a movie can be a CGI creation. Its looked decent in the Mandalorian and Boba Fett, but he's only on screen for a few minutes at a time.
     
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    Yeah, I thought there were some angles to explore there. The Last Jedi really sank that film before it got out of the gates. I think releasing it even later on in December would've helped it but Kennedy really believed she had knocked it out of the park with Last Jedi and wanted to get it out there as soon as possible.



    I agree with this as well.

    The best chance of some kind of soft reboot to the sequel trilogy is with whatever Feloni is doing. If it does well enough, then the Rey movie could end up on the scrap heap with all the other projects that have been announced and canceled and maybe we go full steam ahead with new leadership, Feloni, and building the new universe around a new Luke.
     
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    I really liked Rogue One. Solo was okay. I was into The Mando up until this past season- the casting of the villains, aside from the Chicken Man has been awful. The rest of the garbage that Disney has put out has been forgettable and uninspired. I have the lowest of expectations for any new projects moving forward until Kennedy is replaced by someone who has a clue.
     
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