Star Wars Thread (a Galaxy Far Far Away) Obi-Wan Movie In The Works! (36)

The Light side is calling to you, Time. Don't shut it out like Realdeal. Don't give in to the Darkside. Don't give in to Rian Johnson's hate for Star Wars fans.

 

To be fair, the man tried, and he had an almost impossible task of pleasing everyone, old fans set in our ways, and new fans that don’t even care much about Luke, Leia and such. Somebody had to take the bullet for going in a new direction and taking chances after JJ played it incredibly safe. I only hope he still gets his new trilogy after all this backlash, because I think with beloved characters out of the picture he can make some amazing SW movies.

 

No, Rian. They didn't have to happen. You could have accomplished all the major plot beats you did and still made Luke the Luke we loved instead of changing his core.

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Easily could have just made it that Luke retreated to find answers on how to respond to the failure rather than him giving up and waiting to die. Rey comes and he can be reluctant to train her because of Kylo turning (and not turning cause Luke wanted to kill him). Everything else can stay the same and the outrage probably reduces by half. Still can have your twists and turns and old broken Luke. But he was broken and still searching for answers on how to fix it.

 

I love the new movie and it screams star wars to me more than any movie besides Episode 4. Rian did more for star wars than anyone since Kershner.

 

This is a bit I was referencing from that podcast on the last page. If anyone didn’t have the time or bother to watch that whole thing this is under 4 mins. Not trying to change anyone’s mind on anything, I just thought these guys made a lot of sense and it makes me laugh at the same time

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I don't really understand that complaint for Star Wars. Star Wars shouldn't be a romp that's easily digestable. That's what every other blockbuster is for. Honestly, Marvel is more like that. Transformers can be that. Star Wars is weird and should feel weird and shouldn't be so easy all the time. Empire Strikes Back is universally considered the best movie in the franchise and it subverts the entire series in a similar way to the Last Jedi.

I also don't agree that it's Rian's responsibility to pay off things that JJ set up that aren't necessarily fresh and interesting. Certain answers would have been nice, but in the end they aren't really important. The important players are the ones we're left asking questions about.

But to each their own. It seems most of this board were underwhelmed and that's disappointing for all of us.

 

It ends with the bad-guys winning, the protagonist gravely injured, one of the major supporting characters imprisoned (possibly dying), and no obvious way forward. How is that a path that the 1st one clearly lays out?

 

It also took the force from being an “energy field” that could be used to trick stormtroopers, deflect laser fire without physically seeing, and help guide you to fire torpedoes into a small opening, to deep philosophy lessons, something that could lift an X-Wing, and be used to hurl large objects at your enemy. ANH and ESB couldn’t be more different movies. I wonder lately had the internet been around in 1980, how divided the fan base would have been in the moment on what ESB did with SW. I don’t care who likes and doesn’t like TLJ, again, opinions are subjective, we like what we like. But for me, it works, I love how deep it is compared to TFA and gets us all talking, and I think for those reasons it will hold up years and years from now like the original movies.

 

Exactly. Think about the jump from Luke deflecting some test shots on the Falcon to Vader hurling dozens of objects at Luke through the Force and Yoda lifting a ship out of the swamp. I can already hear the Internet shouting, "Oh so the Force is magic now? What the hell? Then why didn't Yoda or Obi-Wan just smash Vader with the Force if he can lift heavy stuff?!" I think a big problem is that we've had so effing long from the originals to now and we're trying to compare the originals to now and there's an entire generation that only grew up with the originals in a box set so they were able to jump from movie to movie without the time in between.

Episode 5 was very poorly received at first, but it grew on people as time went on and it's now the most treasured movie. I'm not saying the Last Jedi will be a treasured movie (I feel like it should be eventually), but I think it'll be much more appreciated a few months from now as people let shock die down and delve back into the story. Then again, people might return to it a few months from now and still hate it and that's fine too. I just think the originals have hit a mythical level that they maybe don't necessarily deserve. They're not perfect movies and they didn't set up a perfect universe. It's weird seeing how much people were willing to forgive the Fore Awakens for mistakes, but are absolutely crushing The Last Jedi for its mistakes. Being the first comes with a lot of positives.

Hopefully JJ makes a great Episode Nine and we can all rest happily with the final product on these three movies. So far, I love them. I can't wait for Episode Nine.

 

Clearly Disney put a gun to Hammil’s head for this one. “Look Mark, there’s a lot of desert not to far outside LA, it’s very easy to make someone disappear. You can ‘do the right thing’ and be a force ghost in 9, or a real one in life.”



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Man I’m still not sure about this one. Ford IS Solo. I really like this kid in Hail Caesar though, so who knows. I think Glover is gonna kill it as Lando though, and if the movie is a fun ride, we all win in the end.

 

Just wait until you see the Falcon before it became a hunk of junk...

 

All I know is the kid better have some huge lifts in his boots and some camera trickery going on, because he’s 5’9 and Ford is 6’1. That’s going to be noticeable if not done right.