Some Advanced Stats

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  1. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

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    Defensively, this is probably one of the worst Lakers teams I've ever seen. Maybe the worst.
     
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    Last year looked worse to me, but I guess we'll see when it's all said and done. The combo of Booz and Wes really leaves a lot to be desired. Then Kobe and Lin aren't the greatest either at this stage. That leaves Hill to cover a lot of ground. When Ed Davis is in with him we look a lot better just having some extra D at the rim. Price also helps the PG position, but I don't want him starting.
     
  3. trodgers

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    Through 9 games:
    PG (C-)
    Lin 71
    Price 66
    Clarkson 50

    WING (D)
    Kobe 81
    Clarkson 54
    Price 53
    Kelly 52
    Ellington 52
    Johnson 38
    Henry 24

    BIG (A-)
    Hill 94
    Davis 86
    Boozer 73
    Sacre 65
    Kelly 55
    Randle 21
    Johnson 44

    I want to see Clarkson get more burn.

    I want to see: Lin/Ellington/Kobe/Kelly/Hill a bit and see what that looks like.
    A bench of Price/Clarkson/Wes/Boozer/Davis could be interesting to watch, and it would feature a few vets.

    When Swaggy comes back, I'd like to see Wes used only situationally.
     
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    Situationally never.
     
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  5. trodgers

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    Through 10 Games

    PG (D)
    Lin 68
    Price 64
    Clarkson 53

    WING (C)
    Kobe 84
    Kelly 59+
    Clarkson 57
    Price 51
    Ellington 52
    Henry 39+++
    Johnson 38

    BIG (A-)
    Hill 95
    Davis 88
    Boozer 70
    Sacre 70+
    Kelly 68+++
    Johnson 44
    Randle 21

    We need a guard. We need another wing player. We need those things desperately.
     
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    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

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    ^^ Luckily we are getting Young back soon. Takes care of the wing, at least.
     
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    Young coming back does help in the Wing department; also, with the addition of Miller, maybe he could be more useful than Wesley resulting in a decrease in Johnson's minutes. That would help. As far as the guard situation, I did like what Doc suggested in the GD thread; starting Clarkson. Lin could be moved to the bench. IDK. Just throwing stuff out there...
     
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    Guess the two players with the worst team defensive ratings on our team.

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    Carlos Boozer at 121.2.
    Wesley Johnson at 120.7.

    Not shocking at all.

    The two best are Sacre and Ellington.
     
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    Is Miller coming fa sho?
     
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    PG (C-)
    Lin 72
    Price 63
    Clarkson 53

    WING (C)
    Kobe 84
    Young 61
    Kelly 59
    Clarkson 57
    Price 50
    Ellington 52
    Henry 39
    Johnson 37

    BIG (A-)
    Hill 95
    Davis 85
    Boozer 73
    Kelly 68
    Sacre 67
    Johnson 44
    Randle 21

    Young didn't hand out an assist; the way the numbers work, his passing should jump. He would've been at a 70 with just one assist last night. That'll come.

    Scoring Leaders: Kobe 6.8, Young 6.7, Kelly 5.9
    Passing Leaders: Price 4.0, Lin 3.6, Kobe 3.0
    Hustle Leaders: Hill 3.9, Davis 3.8, Boozer 2.8
     
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    He should be...it's been reported by Ding that he'll work out with the Lakers and Henry will be cut.
     
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    Lin had a very good game; he needs consistency. I don't like Price. I'd much rather develop Clarkson at this stage. Price can't shoot, gambles too much on defense, can't run an offense, etc...Clarkson shoots better, can develop the skill set to be better defensively, has a better in-between game, and so on. We probably won't see the benefit right away but could pay dividends moving forward with a much more groomed Clarkson resulting in a better 2nd unit.

    I do think the time in the D-league will help, though.
     
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    It was proposed though. Ding didn't say it was definite.

     
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    Nope, not definite. Thanks for the correction. Although, my gut feeling is X is cut and probably goes to the D-league, IMO.
     
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    I like Price as a cheap backup, but I do think Clarkson has a solid future ahead of him. Pleasant surprise.
     
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    PG (C-)
    Lin 70
    Price 63
    Clarkson 53

    WING (C-)
    Kobe 84
    Kelly 59
    Clarkson 57
    Young 53
    Ellington 52
    Price 51
    Henry 39
    Johnson 38

    BIG (A-)
    Hill 94
    Davis 88
    Boozer 72
    Kelly 68
    Sacre 64
    Johnson 46
    Randle 21

    Scoring Leaders: Kobe 6.8, Young 6.4, Kelly 5.9
    Passing Leaders: Price 4.0, Lin 3.6, Kobe 3.1
    Hustle Leaders: Davis 4.0, Hill 3.8, Boozer 2.8
     
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    I'm loving those numbers on Hill and Davis.
     
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    They're doing exactly what we need. It's a pretty awesome combo for us.
     
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    Kobe's assists are up a bit, and his shooting's trending up. He should be able to work into the low 90s, I'd say.
    Young hasn't handed out an assist, but I expect him to be in the low 70s.
    Hill and Davis around 90 is great.

    We just need one more solid contributor and we're a respectable team.
     
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    That one more contributor needs to be Lin
     

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