Rui Hachimura Discussion

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by Kobe Bryant 8, Jan 23, 2023.

  1. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,007
    Likes Received:
    75,550
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    yeah, way too much has been put into the denver performances of a couple players, imo. our stars got outplayed by their top two guys, too. we got outplayed top to bottom. it was their year; they were on fire.
     
  2. Pioneer10

    Pioneer10 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2019
    Messages:
    4,929
    Likes Received:
    13,382
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    No I don't think that's fair: Lebron and Reaves were really good and AD despite getting outshone by Jokic wasn't bad. Problem was they got nothing from the roleplayers. Shroeder, Rui, Vando, Walker, even Dlo had 1-2 games were they tipped the balance in the first 2 rounds but the dropoff was big vs Denver's role guys unfortunately.

    I mean Lebron averaged 28 a game on 60% TS and Reaves averaged 21 a game on 74% TS. Those are insanely good number and most times when 2 our of your top 3 guys play like that you win a series let alone get swept by the other team.
     
    Slick2021 likes this.
  3. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,007
    Likes Received:
    75,550
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    i mean, jamal murray outplayed lebron, and jokic outplayed AD. if either star outplays one of the other two in the series, maybe we win regardless of what dlo or rui did.
     
    Cookie and FrontOfJersey22 like this.
  4. Pioneer10

    Pioneer10 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2019
    Messages:
    4,929
    Likes Received:
    13,382
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Owned has a very different context IMO then outplayed. While I wouldn't use the term I could see using the term owned for Jokic over AD but Murray was marginally better than Lebron and Reaves was fantastic. I really have a hard time using the term owned for Lebron and Reaves for that series - they were both extremely good IMO (it's one of the reason I think the series was so frustratingly close for Lakers fans)
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2024
    Slick2021 and LTLakerFan like this.
  5. sk2408

    sk2408 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2022
    Messages:
    991
    Likes Received:
    2,232
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    I can't get too mad about Jokic outplaying AD, Jokic is just better than him if we're being honest. I do think, though, that if we had this year's version of LeBron (who looks better to me than last year, even before the foot injury) in that series at least a couple of the games swing our way. We needed LeBron to dominate in the halfcourt to close those games out.
     
    abeer3 and LTLakerFan like this.
  6. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,396
    Likes Received:
    60,555
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
    This year's version of AD, hitting his mid range again with some 3s sprinkled in, and currently healthy outplayed Jokic in the last 2 weeks, so there's that too, along with LeBron being healthy. If it even comes to anything because of that rarity this year thanks to Numbnuts handicapping our team for 2/3 of the season with his utter nonsense.
     
  7. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,007
    Likes Received:
    75,550
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    yep. if you told me before the series that murray would outplay lebron, i'd have predicted we lost the series.
     
    Cookie and wcsoldier81 like this.
  8. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    5,170
    Likes Received:
    8,868
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Offensive numbers are great, but you have to also play great defense in the playoffs- especially when you are trying to beat a team that is better than you.
     
  9. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    5,170
    Likes Received:
    8,868
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I’m sorry, but if a team gets swept in a series, they got owned. I couldn’t care less if we were close in most of the games- we aren’t the Flippers. We have a much higher standard.
     
  10. ZenMaster

    ZenMaster - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    6,023
    Likes Received:
    13,382
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    It may not matter for you being able to proudly refer to it, but it matters for analysis on how to improve and what went wrong or right. Treating it as a binary result is shortsighted.
     
    Pioneer10 likes this.
  11. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    17,971
    Likes Received:
    69,660
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
  12. wcsoldier81

    wcsoldier81 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    5,072
    Likes Received:
    9,817
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    We won't beat Denver until 1) we keep overhelping off the strong side .

    2)Offensively I think AD has a better advantage than Bron against Denver , he should ask for and get the ball more down the stretch
     
  13. fabfourlakers

    fabfourlakers - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2014
    Messages:
    3,572
    Likes Received:
    8,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    This is his time...if LeBron is out, we will NEED a big game from Rui again
     
    Cookie, puffyusaf#2 and lakerjones like this.
  14. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    17,971
    Likes Received:
    69,660
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    It's a shame, I thought he looked GREAT defensively to start the game. Namely the first few minutes. Thought he was really going to step up to the plate in this one.


    The offense was not there. Worst +/- in the game.
     
    LTLakerFan and Pioneer10 like this.
  15. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,678
    Likes Received:
    31,764
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Offline
    Nice night for Rui with 17 points and 7 boards. He was hot from three, making 3 of 4 and 7 of 11 shooting overall. Lakers are 6-0 with him in there with the starting 5: Dlo, AR, Lebron, him and AD. Continuity from last year. Who woulda thunk it? Thanks Ham.
     
  16. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    5,170
    Likes Received:
    8,868
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Hachi!!!
     
    lakerjones likes this.
  17. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    17,971
    Likes Received:
    69,660
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline

    :LLLLLebronlaughing: Missy Elliott game. That's great.


    That 5 man unit just gets the job done. If only we knew sooner. :KobewaitingTW:
     
  18. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,396
    Likes Received:
    60,555
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
    No comprende?

    :KobeConfused:
     
  19. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    5,170
    Likes Received:
    8,868
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    It’s a really bad song that was popular for a minute.
    That one with all the Alex English on it started at the lower half of the rim and crawled over. I’ve never seen one quite like that before.
     
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  20. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,424
    Likes Received:
    7,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yeah.. but come on man..D'Angelo went from avg 16 pts and 5 assists in the 1st two series, to 6pts and 3 assists against Denver, that's a big time drop off, from a player, that you are playing heavy minutes. Theoretically, you expect your Superstars to take up some of that slack, but Lebron wasn't at 100%, and AD was our entire defense. Everyone stepped up, but Russell in that series.
     
    NickthaQuick likes this.

Share This Page