Rob Pelinka Discussion: He's Scrambling

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by OmarE, Feb 21, 2017.

  1. Kenzo

    Kenzo - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    7,496
    Likes Received:
    15,752
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Poland
    Offline
    True. But at the same time, most of us has seen it comin...
     
  2. Pioneer10

    Pioneer10 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2019
    Messages:
    4,553
    Likes Received:
    12,472
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He should have moved DLo as that was the plan with the contract.

    Oh well
     
  3. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,654
    Likes Received:
    72,450
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i didn't see rui and reaves missing open jumpers left and right. that doesn't happen, we're up in this series.

    he moves dlo for what was available to us and we miss the playoffs.
     
  4. Kenzo

    Kenzo - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    7,496
    Likes Received:
    15,752
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Poland
    Offline
    Rui was a fluke last season (i still like him though). DLO is a certified playoffs choker... agreed about AR, makes me sad and pissed at the same time.
     
  5. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,065
    Likes Received:
    73,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    Should have never gotten rid of this dude, one injury ruined playoffs and they panic and get Russ. Disaster

     
    ElginTheGreat, Bryant and Juronimo like this.
  6. Meezy22

    Meezy22 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    13
    Offline
    yall need to quit acting like KCP was good on the lakers, revisionist history, this man was streaky and afraid to shoot does no one remember lebron had to yell at him to shoot cause he was afraid?
     
  7. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,654
    Likes Received:
    72,450
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    he wasn't this good, but he was good and helped us win a ring as a starter.

    at some point, we have to start wondering why our players play better elsewhere (i.e., the reverse popovich/spoelstra).
     
  8. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,065
    Likes Received:
    73,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    I don’t agree with the Mike Conley part, but the rest is valid. We should have a GM, or at least assistant GM that is good around the margins and better at asset management. For example we’re yet again faced with another 2nd round pick being a restricted free agent this summer in Max Christie, and I don’t think we’ve handled his development the best either

     
    ElginTheGreat likes this.
  9. Bryant

    Bryant - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    May 20, 2015
    Messages:
    1,775
    Likes Received:
    5,405
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yeah the dream was broken once we got Westbrick and is limiting what we can do now. That Caruso KCP Kuz LBJ AD lineup was the one.

    But let's be real, was Jeannie really going to pay Kuzma, KCP?
     
  10. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    4,740
    Likes Received:
    8,155
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Kuz and KCP were flawed players, BUT THEY WON A CHAMPIONSHIP playing with AD and LeBron. Nobody will ever convince me that switching them out, along with not paying Caruso, AND going small were good decisions.
     
  11. VladeD714

    VladeD714 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2023
    Messages:
    420
    Likes Received:
    876
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    The Zubac and Russ deal were so bad.

    Magic probably deserves most of the responsibility for that, but Rob was working with him, so you he has to take some accountability.

    Rob executed the trade for WB, and while AD & LBJ gave their ok with it, he has to take some responsibility there, too.

    We lost our "big man" in Zubac and our "depth" in the WB trade.

    Bad, bad, bad.

    Oh, and we let Caruso walk!
     
  12. Bryant

    Bryant - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    May 20, 2015
    Messages:
    1,775
    Likes Received:
    5,405
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Magic left after a year and was the rat in the FO leaking info to the media and claimed how Rob backstabbed him, Jeanie is his “sister”, etc. What a wonderful hire!

    Westbrook was only with Rob.
     
  13. VladeD714

    VladeD714 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2023
    Messages:
    420
    Likes Received:
    876
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    Westbrook was only with Rob?

    That's the only one you blame him for?

    I don't; if he's there, he's getting a bit of that blame.

    IMO.
     
    ElginTheGreat likes this.
  14. Kou

    Kou - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2015
    Messages:
    1,153
    Likes Received:
    2,483
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    Not really sure what the deal is, a lot of people on here wanted to run it back with the same squad, he probably should of tried to secure a proper big, but other than that we have essentially what most people wanted.

    He tried to move DLo but as per usual the Laker tax means we have to give double the amount of any other team for the same player.
     
    LTLakerFan and abeer3 like this.
  15. VladeD714

    VladeD714 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2023
    Messages:
    420
    Likes Received:
    876
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    I'm not just referring to what he did last summer; although, I did like what he did.

    In fact, I think most of us liked the Ham hire at the time. I know I did.

    Hindsight is 20/20, but the right move, if he was going All-Klutch, would have just been to sign Ty Lue years ago. They didn't and got cheap or something happened I forget.

    Vogel wasn't a bad coach. Ireland confirmed today that Russ was the reason we got rid of Vogel for the most part.

    Lakers FO thought the 3 star model could work, and Vogel was the issue. Once Russ continued to behave in the same way and we kept getting piss poor results on the court w/him, they decided the problem was with Russ. ROFL.

    There's so many layers and layers of crap here, fellas and ladies (Cookie). Idk even know where to begin anymore.

    This is a big summer coming up. Very big. Rob is under the most pressure he's probably ever been.

    anyway, it's 12:00 am, and I'm going to bed.

    As always, Go Lakers! The good, the bad, and the ugly, I'm here for it.
     
  16. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,654
    Likes Received:
    72,450
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i feel like rob haters accidentally make his case for him by coming up with such ridiculous concerns (max christie's contract, ty lue, etc.).

    what's wrong with christie's contract? he's an RFA that nobody is going to chase in a way that would make us balk. the same contract structure has reaves locked up at below market value for his prime years. three and four year contracts to 2nd round picks can also bite you in the a** because they require parts of cap space and exceptions to make and can end up being money and roster spots down the drain for a longer period of time. you can justify either path, imo, and it's pure monday morning quarterbacking to pick the right method three years later. again, rob's gambled twice in the same direction and been right twice. irwin has been wrong twice but still acts like he's right.

    to me, rob needs to be held accountable primarily for letting caruso walk. i guess you can hold him accountable for russ, but that's not fair to me. again, he had fully brokered a different, less destructive (though pretty meh) trade before lebron and AD took over gm duties. he learned his lesson there and hasn't let lebron gm since, which has been great. we'd have missed the playoffs entirely this year had lebron gotten his trade deadline wishes.

    the dlo contract that people whine about was a compromise because ownership is cheap. i'm certain we could have gotten a team option on the second year if the salary was much larger (and then we'd have had a big trade chip) but we're not footing the luxury tax bill for a potential trade chip. so here we are. i promise golden state or the clippers wouldn't have done it this way, and it's not because bob myers thought of something rob didn't. even the caruso fiasco reeked a bit of ownership asking him "is he really worth all that?" now, rob got that one dead wrong, but again, in a different organization, he's not having to worry about a couple million for a guy who started games when you won a ring.

    i'd like rob to have someone with good connections next to him. and his absolutely botched paul george tamper attempt has haunted the franchise for years in many different ways (interestingly, his haters don't bring up the worst thing he's done as a gm). i'd totally replace him with an up and coming assistant gm, too, but that new guy would be facing at least some of the same restrictions that we have (financial limitations, glamor-chasing, the laker tax in trades, lebron (right now), etc.). the lakers gm job is harder than other ones, imo.
     
    FrontOfJersey22 likes this.
  17. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    7,800
    Likes Received:
    6,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    The jury is still out on Rob, this offseason will be huge.
     
    ElginTheGreat likes this.
  18. ElginTheGreat

    ElginTheGreat - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Messages:
    10,567
    Likes Received:
    29,307
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Honestly. I don’t feel like anyone in the front office has really done anything to warrant defending them.

    The one exception is the scouting department.
     
    FrontOfJersey22 likes this.
  19. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,992
    Likes Received:
    66,210
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline

    Holding you to it Rob
     
    VladeD714 likes this.
  20. VladeD714

    VladeD714 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2023
    Messages:
    420
    Likes Received:
    876
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    We have 2-3 more seasons with AD.

    They'll go all in with LBJ and AD next year.

    Will be a wild summer.

    IMO
     
    sirronstuff likes this.

Share This Page