Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

Basic human rights...

So Trump would be violating them and promoting racism if he built his 700-mile border and deported 2.5 million illegal immigrants, right?
.
.
.

Spoiler

I lied. They were actually Hillary's and Obama's ideas.

 

You guys can spin however you want. I don't give a s***. He is your president. Whatever helps you nurture your conscience. Things probably were taken out of context, right?

For me - a person that claims that Mexicans are rapists, grabs women by ..... because he is a celebrity and so much more to even mention... is what he is. Quacks like a duck, you know.

And there is a very very long distance between wanting to deport illegal immigrants and claiming that they all are rapists. Or wanting to deport citizens from a specific race/religion.

I am out. This is your s***, if you like to sleep in it and claim it smells of roses - it's your prerogative. Who am I to tell you otherwise.

P.S.

I didn't bring Trump vs. Clinton into it. You did.

Putting in a white bulletin (or whatever not choosing anyone is called in your a**-backwards system) is also executing one's democratic choice, you know...

 

I need a safe space.

Btw he said *some* illegals, not all mexicans not all illegals. And "they let you" is the definition of consent.

_________
Unrelated: on @acetabulum7's point Obama has deported more people than any other president.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661

 

It wasn't a deport page it was a page on entry and it went back up as it was hours later. And reports of a fence instead of a wall is not him saying hes going to build a fence instead of a wall, let's wait on that one first before saying he changed his mind because as of right now he hasn't. He did say he would repeal and replace Obamacare and went back on that one to instead just modifying it - which isn't what he said he would do, so I give you that. But it may very well resemble nothing of obamacare by the time hes through with it.

 

What are the chances he keeps it in its entirety and just slaps his name on it lol? Trumpcare.

Because thats what i'm getting from him so far. Once you keep pre-existing conditions, you pretty much have to keep the whole thing in some form:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ning-to-face-a-rude-awakening-over-obamacare/

 

Straw man argument? I don't think it means what you think it means.

Claiming that Trump said things that are actually on tape is not it. He didn't say they were rapists? OK. How about women? Muslims? Black people? Disabled people? POWs?

"When Mexico is sending people, they are not sending you, they are not sending you, they are sending people that have a lot of problems. They are bringing those problems with them. They are bringing drugs, they are bringing crime, they are rapists... And some I assume are good people."

That is directly from the horse's mouth. I don't f***ing care how much you want to spin it. Never mind that it has been proven multiple times that the statement is absolutely f***ing false. That is a s***ty s***ty person saying s***ty s***ty things, to get votes. And there is so much more.

Anyway... have fun. All those are probably:

1. have been taken out of context
2. just ole' Donald being a non-savvy politician
3. being non-PC (enough with this PC crap, amirite?)

 

1. I've never said he said "All Mexicans". Check the quote. And my later verbatim is to show you that he didn't say "some of the Mexicans". His wording clearly showed a reference to majority. Of course, that's semantics, which was not what my point was.
2. I've never insulted anyone (here is your straw man) despite what you claimed in your response to me

For the record - straw man argument means one side puts forth an argument against a claim that was never made by the other side or distorts one that was. Something I haven't done.

You guys selected a reprehensible human being for president. One that doesn't even try to hide it. You now have to come to grips with reality. I get it.

As I said earlier, and what you probably misconstrued as an insult, you had a lapse in judgement.

 

Oh, is that right? OK. There was no exaggeration on my part, but whatever, keep pressing on it, if you'd like. Rationalization have different forms. Don't see how you quoting me changes the fact that I didn't misrepresent anything.

You on the other hand picked and chose what of the claims of Trump's horrible things to cling to. Then you decided to be "large" and say that you disagree with "his statements".

These are not statements. Racism, bigotry and chauvinism are NOT f***ING STATEMENTS! They are an absolute stop sign for anything else this person does, says or means. IT boggles my mind that someone would chose to rationalize over it.

As for insults, this is what I said:

I stand by it. As for my "flippantly dismissive tone", that's on you and your perception.

And no

is is not.

I'd suggest you to not respond, since this is the absolute last time I am going to, but I'd imaging you would not listen anyway.

 

I find it interesting how a lot of people are criticizing Trump for "flip-flopping". I mean obviously he has a history of it and it's a poor trait for a politician in the sense that we don't know if/when he'll "flip" back.

But it's possible that he's finally just coming to the middle which is a good thing. Shouldn't it be considered a good thing that he's willing to compromise and keep some of the good aspects of Obamacare?

Yet the sentiment I'm hearing from some liberals is so anti-Trump and they want to attack him for everything he says, to the point where it almost comes across like now they want Obamacare fully repealed just to be contrarian lol.

Reminds me of that Key and Peele skit

 

I haven't heard any liberals who are complaining about him possibly keeping Obamacare.

 

But the whole argument has always been which one do you find more/less despicable.

And I never bought the whole, "they are BOTH equally, exactly down the middle, despicable" argument.