Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

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  1. therealdeal

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    Seriously. Every time someone says increase or raise taxes I get crazy. I almost take it personally. I give up so much of my money to California it makes me ill when I think about it.
     
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    Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) said his tax increases would “hit everybody” becuse he would raise the payroll tax to pay for paid family and medical leave.

    Sanders said, “I think if you are looking about guaranteeing paid family and medical leave, which every other major country has so that when a mom gives birth she doesn’t have to go back to work in two weeks. Dad or mom can stay home with the kids. That will require a small increase in the payroll tax.”

    Stephanopoulos said, “That’s going to hit everybody.”

    Sanders agreed saying, “That would hit everybody, yeah, It would but it would mean we were drawing the rest of the industrialized world and make sure that when a mom has a baby she can in fact stay home with that baby for three months rather than go back to work at the end of one week. We are the only country, only major country that doesn’t guarantee paid family and medical leave. We do a lot of great things in this country but we are behind many other countries in protecting the middle class and working families.”


    One more candidate I can't get with.

    WE ARE TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY!!!
     
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    I don't want any more taxes, but we need to do what he's saying and grant real leave for having babies.

    We only have to pay this through taxes IMO because cutting military spending would be tantamount to treason, even though it could easily pay for this program.

    You're damned if you do and damned if you don't
     
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    I'm not sure anyone disagrees on scaling back military budgets if they're allocated appropriately and done reasonably. The defense budget is enormous and anyone who knows a person in the Navy knows their budget doesn't need to be that high.
     
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    The military budget should be cut, but when it is, they cut people instead of programs (contracts with Boeing and Lockheed Martin).

    I saw a funny meme today that said Bernie Sanders is the Participation Ribbon generation coming home to roost. LOL
     
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    Then fixing that is what needs to happen.

    There would be a ton of people accusing Sanders of being soft if he tried to cut military spending, but it's the thing that would actually fix a lot of our financial problems. If he ran on that, I'm convinced he wouldn't win, but the whole "you have to spend it" to not get funds cut from programs is a criminal waste IMO.
     
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    Truth!
     
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    It's been 14 years already. GTFO.

    If the Afghani's wanted to be free of the Taliban, they would have done it already.
     
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    Yea, Bernie's position on Afghanistan has been disappointing and a head scratcher
     
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    That's not a good sign.

    I knew Obama wanted to continue fighting in Afghanistan when I first voted for him, but thought he would pull out of Iraq, so he would be reducing the war effort overall. I want no part in continuing this perpetual war without end.

    -1 Bernie
     
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    Biden announced he's not running. Kinda shocking IMO, because I think he had a great shot at the nomination.
     
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    The more democrats fighting each other, the better.
     
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    "Bernie Sanders’ Brilliant Plan to Turn Post Offices into Banks
    James Woods | October 20, 2015
    Here’s why Bernie’s plan makes a lot of sense.

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    Bernie Sanders, the candidate urging Americans to have a “political revolution,” is suggesting a revolutionary idea that undoubtedly has Wall Street seething with fury.

    Following up on his campaign platforms like a $15 an hour minimum wage and closing corporate tax loopholes, Sanders is now suggesting we turn post offices into banks.

    In an op-ed for The Wall Street Journal last year, the Vermont senator first suggested postal banking as a way to help save the jobs of the more than 500,000 people employed by the United States Postal Service. As Sanders wrote, postal banking could also help provide financial services for people with limited access to bank branches.

    “If you are a low-income person, it is, depending upon where you live, very difficult to find normal banking. Banks don’t want you. And what people are forced to do is go to payday lenders who charge outrageously high interest rates. You go to check-cashing places, which rip you off. And, yes, I think that the postal service, in fact, can play an important role in providing modest types of banking service to folks who need it.”

    Along with nationalized healthcare and paid family leave, postal banking is yet another idea popular throughout the world that has somehow never found a foothold here in America. It is believed that up to40% of people in America currently have to rely on privatized and punitive check-cashing facilities just to cash their paycheck at the end of the week — either their location or financial history prohibits them from going to a bank.

    In a radio interview with Ed Schultz on Wednesday, Sanders explained just how much revenue this could generate for the USPS as they continue to battle back from the brink of extinction.

    “A new report from the Postal Service suggests one way the agency could make as much as $8.9 billion in annual revenue would be to offer limited banking services like cashing checks and selling pre-paid debit cards. The USPS already takes in more than $100 million in revenue each year by selling postal money orders. One of the areas we should be looking at is banking.”

    One of Sanders’ chief goals as president is to break up the big commercial banks responsible for the 2008 financial crisis, but his goal of establishing postal banks isn’t getting nearly as much play as it should. Sanders’ postal banking idea could simultaneously strengthen the USPS and give much needed relief to those who exist on the fringe of financial services access. It would also serve to provide the big banks some competition in the free market they claim to love.

    More importantly, postal banking would mean lower service rates and fees for everyone, regardless of if they banked at a post office or not. A proposal, even from a socialist, that would make the “free market” a freer market should theoretically be appealing to even the most ardent libertarian disciples of Ludwig von Mises and Milton Friedman. What’s not to love?
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    http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-postal-banking/

    Hummm..... OK. Never thought of it before, but I'd be ok with this idea.
     
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    The postal service, being ran by the government, had its purpose, but that day is dead. Privatize it. Allow competition and quit funding it with tax payer dollars. Private companies can run it MUCH better than the government.

    Government run banks is just another way to get more of our tax dollars.

    I am in favor of getting rid of those payday loan places.
     
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    Part of the reason why the government intially was involved in delivering mail was because there weren't any roads to deliver the mail. Hence the "postal roads" clause in the constitution. Now we don't even need any roads to deliver packages. Just ask Amazon.

    The reason why the postal service is bleeding cash right now is due to a ridiculous pension plan congress passed in 2006.

    Bernie keeps blaming the banks for the 2008 crisis and never criticizes the federal reserve's role in the problem. The federal government needs to stay out of banking. Period.
     
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    Chris Christie wants to be POTUS, but he can't even behave well enough to stay on an Amtrak train.
     
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    How can anyone be drinking a strawberry smoothy and be mad at the same time lol
     
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    I finally decided to watch a GOP debate this year.

    Wow. The CNBC debate was one of the worst presidential debates I've ever seen. The moderators asked some of the worst questions I've ever heard. Even Ted Cruz called them out on it. Aside from Paul, Fiorina, and Carson, all of them sounded like circus clowns or used car salesman. Not presidential material. Rubio sounded like a crybaby when the moderator grilled him about his absenteeism in the senate.

    I'm definitely not watching anymore of these.
     
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    Fiorina keeps winning these debates and then ignored by the media.
     
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    I love how Ted Cruz gets asked about the budget deal and proceeds to waste his time ******** about the media.

    And of course the audience eats it up.

    That's really my take away from this whole debate. Blame the media, it'll score you some points. That and how every single one of their tax plans is completely unrealistic and will ironically blow up the national debt.

    Oh yea and 'Merica.
     

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