Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

She's been proven complicit in a slew of other crimes. Murder would just be the icing on the cake.

 

By which time he hopefully has calmed down. Dropping a nuke ain't like dustin' crops kid. (not calling you a kid. Just making a Star Wars reference )

 

This.

@Azndude2190 your attitude in this election is actually what's going to lead us down this destructive path.

 

You're absolutely correct. Do a google search of all the generals that "retired" under Obama. In the military, "fired" means they move you to another job. "Retired" means they don't want you around any more.

 

I hope you're being facetious. You view being complicit in a murder over someone in favor of torture?

Charles Manson never personally killed anyone. A lot of people are in favor of water boarding and other forms of torture (mainly because they are so effective).

 

Exactly. For too long in this country too many people (including myself in my younger days) just said "We don't like either candidate, but it's the lesser of two evils, right?" Well at some point all that "lesser" evil catches up with you. It's like doing oxy instead of black tar heroin. It's the lesser of two evils, but eventually you're going to get killed. And at what point is the lesser evil just too freaking evil too even stomach?

Umm.

Am I missing something? Seriously. I'm asking.

 

http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...oarding-works-us-senate-candidate-todd-wilco/

U.S. Senate candidate Todd Wilcox said the controversial interrogation practice of waterboarding isn’t torture but an effective tool in the global war on terror.

It gets results, he said.

In an interview published in the Miami Herald on May 20, Wilcox blamed the White House for limiting the country’s ability to gain intelligence from alleged terrorists.

"I can tell you that the enhanced interrogation techniques that have since been banned by this administration — specifically waterboarding — work," said Wilcox, who is vying for the Republican nomination to replace Sen. Marco Rubio. "They work on the terrorists, and there's a proven history of that."



http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...from-waterboarding-led-us-to-bin-laden-video/

Yes, waterboarding worked.
Today on Meet the Press Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta admitted that information gleaned from waterboarded detainees was used to track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him.

“The real story was that in order to put the puzzle of intelligence together that led us to Bin Laden, there were a lot of pieces out there that were a part of that puzzle. Yes, some of it came from some of the tactics that were used at that time, interrogation tactics that were used. But the fact is we put together most of that intelligence without having to resort to that.”



And to be fair:
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/did-waterboarding-work

The successful raid on Osama bin Laden’s safe house in Pakistan has reinvigorated debate over the role that “enhanced interrogation techniques” have played in fighting Al Qaeda. No one is switching sides, which has turned the argument into a theological one between two sets of true believers. Each views the other as heretics.

Get over it. The whole of the debate is pointless posturing. There is no way to prove or disprove the real worth of America’s experiment with waterboarding and coercive techniques. More important, enhanced interrogation isn’t coming back.

 

Not will it. She's too powerful.

 

I was talking about the favoring one over the other. You said you don't, but like 6 posts earlier you said you did.

 

^^^ The 3rd article, I said, "to be fair" above it. Trying to show both sides.

 

I'm not expecting you to say anything. It's not a back and forth. I'm of the opinion neither are fit for office. I thought you were thinking the same way. I was just adding to the conversation.

 

Is a 3rd Party gonna win in this election? No. But I'm voting that way. I'm hoping in 1 or 2 more presidential election cycles we can get those numbers up to be serious rivals to the Big 2. The way I see it, these are the 2 worst choices of my lifetime (and I was alive when Carter was president).

I understand the SCOTUS pick. We're looking at 2, possibly 3, appointments. But look at ObamaCare -- the "Republican" flipped his pick. More will do the same. It's politics as usual, even on the high court.