Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

I'll be honest none of what those captions said happened the way they said them.

He does initiate contact... with a piece of paper. The paper does not push her back. She takes a step back. Now does he invade her space? Sure. But I did not once see him put his actual hands on her. The wording here is pretty sketchy. If the video said "Man pokes woman with paper" or "Man invades space" it wouldn't be so grabby though right? It's better to say "Proof of man touching woman's breast at Trump rally" because that makes it sound so much more invasive and invokes the lowest thought you could have of a person. I'm not saying what he did was right, far from it. He's in the wrong and so is she. They're both idiots and deserve each other. I again don't see a situation in which she is not bringing these actions on herself. It's kind of ridiculous really.

I don't see a reason that this girl is some sort of hero and the man is some sort of villain. They're both putting themselves in positions to be exploited. She came to antagonize a group of people. She is no hero nor is she a victim. Like I've been saying: if you go to these places with these people, you are ASKING for this type of response. Stay away from them! Go protest somewhere where they aren't in your face and you're not exposing yourself to that situation. If there's an area where a mountain lion is known to hunt, are you going to go play in that part of the wilderness? Hopefully not! You go somewhere outside that area. If you know these Trump people AT THE VERY LEAST are adamant in their support of Trump to the point of violence, then why are you there? To protest? Is that going to change their mind? Stupid.

Hey Watts is a dangerous place sometimes, right? Let's hang out there at night wearing gang colors.
Hey the rival school's football team is at this party. Let's go there and say they suck.
Hey I am against radical terrorism. Let's go to the most infested parts of the world holding a Bible.

No, right? Violence is never the answer and your "right"-ness does not excuse their "wrong"-ness but are you going to put yourself in those situations? Are you going to expose yourself to that hatred and expect love in return? What she is doing and what other Trump protesters are doing is exposing themselves to situations in which they will be harmed and expecting themselves not to be? Stupid.

Sorry, but it's so preposterous to me. Trump is a maniac and he's inspiring hate around the country. Let's go yell at these people's faces? Why? Isn't that responding to hate with more hate? Aren't you supposed to respond to hate with love? There's a video of a guy giving away hugs at both a Trump and a Sanders rally. THAT to me is what you should be doing. Give people something to love instead of something to hate. You're not helping the situation by waving signs in their faces and yelling your own propaganda. By the way guess which rally responded more positively?

 

As I watched that video, it was pretty clear to me that the guy's hand is behind the paper as he's holding it, and the back of his hand, or back of his fingers is what's bumping into her chest.

I'm not claiming she is the paragon of righteousness, but she didn't lie about him touching her breast. He did, and I can understand her being pissed off and hauling off and punching him. Non violence is always the best answer, but touch someone in the wrong way, all bets are off, and you get what you get.

 

I can say with 100% honesty that I don't see him touch her anywhere in that video with his own body and that the captions in that video make ridiculous claims. The one where it says "he might be touching her with his other hand" is particularly gross. His hand is at his side! Just look at his arm, there's no way his other hand is touching her. I hate whoever made that video. Don't tell me what to see, just show me. Bad storytelling...

But yeah I'd still punch that guy. I'd also probably yell at her and get in her face. Both of those people deserved what they got.

Trump also deserved what he got by losing Wisconsin.

 

QFT

 

This is the real map of the Democratic contest with no Super Delegates.

Bernie is now within 200 Delegates of Hillary, and most of the upcoming states are projected to vote Bernie.

 

Interesting. And I have to admit, I haven't heard of many Democratic politicians coming out and endorsing Bernie. Either they don't like him, which is plausible, or they are afraid of the DNC and Hillary. You be the judge.

 

The Democrats don't like that he's a threat to their income/payoffs, and that he doesn't vote along party lines. He votes with his convictions, and that means he will vote against wars and things that the Dems endorse.

And the funny thing is on the other side, Republicans respect him:

 

What a mess, politics are truly disturbing. I have very few opinions of any value on this. I'll just say Trump is insane, and a lot of his supporters scare me. I'm also rooting against Hillary big time. And lastly, as well intentioned as the girl that got pepper-sprayed seemed to be, a 15 year old should probably not be protesting at political rallies. She can't vote yet, and it seemed genuinely dangerous, she's a minor in a hostile situation. I don't know if it's mathematically possible for Bernie to catch and pass Hillary still, but I sure hope it is, from what I have seen he is the most stable candidate left.

 

It's not only mathematically possible, it's almost likely at this point. Bernie is less than 200 delegates behind her with only states he is expected to win coming up, and the Department of Justice is likely to force Arizona to revote due to the voter suppression they had there during their primary. He could possibly run the table.

Right now, New York with 247 delegates and California with 475 delegates might decide the race. That's why Hillary didn't want to debate in NY. She was the senator there. She already has name recognition there. Why risk that when Bernie has kicked her butt again and again in head to head debates?

 

Bernie is similar to Cruz in that they aren't exactly making friends in the party. For the RNC they fear Trump more than Cruz, but the Dems have Hillary to fall back on.

 

What was Bill yelling about today? I saw it on a treadmill at the gym, but I couldn't hear what he was saying. Something about telling the truth?

 

He said "unlike when I was President, the world is falling apart around us." Condemnation of Obama's presidency, IMO.

 

What was he saying about the truth? It seemed like he was saying something about his wife's campaign which I found hilarious.

 

I don't know everything, but some BLM protesters were at his rally with signs about Hillary calling black kids super predators, and Bill didn't like that, and tried to defend her.

 

Media double standard. Clinton and BLM argue and it's just that: a difference of opinion. If Trump said those things, he's the Grand Wizard of the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

Notice we never hear about the KKK until it's election time?

IMO, Clinton did some great things (welfare reform being one of them). He also did some bad (prison policy) and I think he benefitted greatly by the internet boom. As commander in chief, I couldn't stand him. He failed to go after the Khobar Towers bombers and Saudi had them and we knew it was Iran, but too passive on that front for me.

Back on topic, he stood up to BLM. I know Trump and Cruz would. Bernie didn't when they took the mic from him. I'm not sure what Hillary would do.

 

Bernie didn't want to stand up to BLM. He agrees with their message, if not their approach.