Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

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  1. John3:16

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    I love the real Three Stooges. Laurel and Hardy too.
     
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    Hillary won SC rather convincingly. Yikes.
     
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    We're headed for the real life version of this

     
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    Damn, why didn't I think of that!

     
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    :Laugh: That "what are you going to do, it's a 2 party system!" seems especially relevant right now.
     
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    "And always twirling... twirling... twirling towards freedom!!" :Laugh:
     
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    I'd rather vote for Kodos.
     
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    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

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    YES!!! F*** the DNC!

    P.S: and she's cute for a senator

    "
    DNC Vice-Chair Resigns, Throws Support Behind Bernie Sanders
    US Rep. Tulsi Gabbard announced her decision on "Meet the Press" Sunday morning

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    U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Democrat from Hawaii. (Photo: AFGE/flickr/cc)

    U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii announced Sunday that she will resign as vice-chair of the Democratic National Committee and endorse Bernie Sanders for president.

    "I think it's most important for us, as we look at our choices as to who our next commander in chief will be, is to recognize the necessity to have a commander in chief who has foresight, who exercises good judgment," Gabbard said on MSNBC's "Meet the Press."





    According to an email obtained by Politico, Gabbard told her fellow DNC officers that "after much thought and consideration, I’ve decided I cannot remain neutral and sit on the sidelines any longer."

    "There is a clear contrast between our two candidates with regard to my strong belief that we must end the interventionist, regime change policies that have cost us so much," she wrote. "This is not just another 'issue.' This is THE issue, and it’s deeply personal to me. This is why I’ve decided to resign as Vice Chair of the DNC so that I can support Bernie Sanders in his efforts to earn the Democratic nomination in the 2016 presidential race."


    Over the course of the campaign, Sanders and his supporters have accused the DNC of having a pro-Hillary Clinton—pro-establishment—bias. Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz served as one of Clinton's national campaign co-chairs in 2008.

    Gabbard elaborated on her decision in a video online:



    Also on Sunday, the New York Times explored how Clinton, "whose Senate vote for the Iraq war may have doomed her first presidential campaign nonetheless doubled down and pushed for military action in another Muslim country"—Libya, described by the Times as "a failed state and a terrorist haven."

    "As she once again seeks the White House, campaigning in part on her experience as the nation’s chief diplomat, an examination of the intervention she championed shows her at what was arguably her moment of greatest influence as secretary of state," the Times wrote. "It is a working portrait rich with evidence of what kind of president she might be, and especially of her expansive approach to the signal foreign-policy conundrum of today: whether, when and how the United States should wield its military power in Syria and elsewhere in the Middle East."
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    This is even bigger!! :ShaqOh2::Headbang:

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    Warren Endorses Sanders, Breaking With Colleagues


    By JONATHAN MARTIN and ALEXANDER BURNSFEB. 29, 2016

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    Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts on Capitol Hill Monday. CreditCooper Neill for The New York Times


    • WASHINGTON, D.C. -- In a potentially decisive turn for the Democratic race, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) has endorsed her colleague, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, in his campaign for president. Until now, not a single Democratic U.S. Senator had endorsed Mr. Sanders, almost all but Warren publicly voicing their support for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

      "Senator Sanders has served this country and the people of Vermont with integrity. He understands that a political system rigged in favor of the wealthy and the big banks is not a sustainable system," Ms. Warren said in a statement. "The movement behind Senator Sanders has made it abundantly clear: the American people have had enough."

      The endorsement from Sen. Warren could not have come at a more crucial time for the Sanders campaign.

      Fresh from a crushing defeat to Mrs. Clinton in South Carolina, and a narrower but still decisive loss to Clinton in Nevada, Mr. Sanders has struggled to reclaim the narrative that the former First Lady's nomination is all but assured.

      "We are obviously excited," said Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver. "Senator Warren has been one of the loudest, fiercest voices in the fight against income equality, articulating the anger and frustrations many Americans feel about the billionaire class, and their stranglehold on our economic and political systems. And like Bernie Sanders, Senator Warren has not only talked the talk, but walked the walk."

      Warren's endorsement is undoubtedly the most coveted award this Democratic Primary season.

      A hero to the progressive wing of the party, many liberals had hoped she would make a run for the White House herself. Despite her consistent denials, progressives aggressively courted her. The Boston Globe ran a series of editorials encouraging her to get in the race, and the "Run Warren Run" and "Ready for Warren" stealth campaigns amassed hundreds of thousands of signatures, even fielding caucus operations in early states.

      The endorsement deals a major blow to Mrs. Clinton on the eve of Super Tuesday, when some twenty percent of the total delegates needed to win the nomination are up for grabs.

      The Clinton campaign could not be reached for comment, but several of Mrs. Clinton's supporters said they were disappointed in the decision.

      "I have the utmost respect for my colleague Senator Warren and the important work she's doing," said Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA). "It's unfortunate that she isn't supporting Hillary, but I am sure she will be an ardent supporter if Mrs. Clinton is to win the nomination."

      Others were less diplomatic.
      "Bernie is a single-issue candidate," offered disgraced former Congressman Anthony Weiner, husband of longtime Clinton aide Huma Abedin. "Senator Warren obviously wants to reign in Wall Street -- but she hasn't really talked about much else during her time on Capitol Hill. Seems like she's just being faithful to her brand."

      Lena Dunham, creator of the HBO show Girls and an avowed supporter of Mrs. Clinton, tweeted, "Women can support whomever they like. That's what feminism is all about." The missive was seemingly designed to blunt the sort of criticism that put the Clinton campaign in hot water just a few weeks ago, when former Secretary of State Madeline Albright seemed to imply women should support Mrs. Clinton because of her gender.

      It remains to be seen if Warren's endorsement can provide the Sanders campaign with the crucial jolt of momentum needed to beat Mrs. Clinton's formidable ground game on Super Tuesday, in which she holds considerable leads in most states.
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    http://www.nytimes.com.8i69.clonezo...&gwh=867C4BBD89C2B7308FE8D5E97593EEFE&gwt=pay
     
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    Warren is a typical politician. Claimed she was Native American (she's not) and decries the cost of college while making $250,000 to teach one class. Talks a good game, but doesn't walk it.

    I like Bernie over Hillary, but I don't see him stopping her. Name recognition. SC was very telling. She got 87% of the black vote. Don't see her losing the South if that holds up.
     
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    I think a part of the problem is she wins a lot of the traditionally "red" states. Not sure why the DNC decided states that don't often vote for their party should get a bigger voice in choosing their candidate.
     
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    I don't think he's gong to win the southern black vote, but I bet he wins California and New York, and now that he has Warren's endorsement, I think he gets Massachusetts too.
     
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    Hill/Bern will be decided by the super delegates, despite the vote of the people.

    The more endorsements Bernie gets, the higher chance he has to get some of those delegates to flip the switch. I know Bernie is preaching to the people right now, but he has to get more and more support from within the DNC or he's not gonna have a chance.
     
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    Apparently this endorsement was fake.

    http://gawker.com/fake-website-tricks-thousands-into-believing-elizabeth-1762143861
     
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    Like for "people suck".
     
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    Short of Hillary being brought up on criminal charges, Bernie doesn't have a chance. It's going to be Trump vs Hillary. Hillary is almost completely unelectable. But the Republicans have decided to put a man even MORE unelectable against her in Trump. I am at a loss for words at this point. I thought the recent leadership of Obama/Boehner/McConnell/Reid/Pelosi was about as bad as it could get. I was dead wrong.
     
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    Should I move to Canada or Australia?
     
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    One is known for good health care and some truly beautiful cities, the other has most of the deadliest animals in the world all in one place. Not a tough choice for me.
     
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    Neither. I thought Obama was a horrible choice and didn't think he had a good presidency, but we survived. I think even less of Hillary and Trump. We'll survive their presidencies (IMO). But we are losing the war slowly. Our rights are being stripped away, layer by layer. We've got a media that has a goal of dividing and they're winning too. Our deficit was approaching the point of no return and that time came and went about 3 years ago. We're not respected on the world stage. Our education system is a joke (no fault of the teachers, but the battle they're fighting daily from higher ups). Too many living in poverty. Too many not carrying their weight. Too many lost in the system. Too much greed. Too many not willing to fight for our RIGHTS!

    I'm frustrated. Trust me. I am. But no reason to move. Stay and fight for what is important to you. I think you'll find a lot of others who feel the same as you who are willing to fight for the same things.
     
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