Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

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  1. KRL

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    What I find funny about the whole Trump second guessing the validity of CIA/FBI/NSA/ABCDEFG... agencies intel on Russia hacking ... the media is up in arms. Yet the media has always questioned the intel on WMD's hahahaha
     
    KRL, Jan 7, 2017
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    John3:16 Moderator Staff Member

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    The White House released the proof that they have.

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    Some of you might be too young to remember this cartoon (Rocky and Bullwinkle)
     
    John3:16, Jan 7, 2017
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    John3:16 Moderator Staff Member

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    President Obama just gave his final speech.

    What grade do you give his presidency?

    I give him a solid D.

    Some facts:
    The good:
    Bin Laden killed by SEALs during his presidency
    Gay marriage passed by Supreme Court during his presidency
    Affordable Care Act passed by Supreme Court during his presidency (I know this one is polarizing, but he promised it and delivered it, flawed as it is)

    The bad:
    95 million out of the labor force (highest ever)
    $19.95 Trillion debt (almost doubled in his 8 years)
    1st President since Hoover to not have GDP above 3% in his term
    Only president to have our country at war every day of his tenure
    Won the Noble Peace Prize while bombing 8 different countries
    Race relations are the worst in my lifetime and probably since the mid 60s (that one isn't based on fact, but my opinion)
    He had 2 American's killed without due process (one was a minor). This is easily my biggest complaint with him. If Trump did this he'd be impeached today (IMO).
    Benghazi (failure to respond) and the cover up
    His desire to get out of Iraq too soon created a vaccum (ISIS)
    Police killings up 10 percent in the past year

    Legacy:
    First black president
    ObamaCare
    Democratic Party is in disarray (lost so many seats in House, Senate and state levels (close to 1000 total)).
    ISIS (who he referred to as the JV Team)
    America was so ready for a change from Obama, they elected Trump


    My list is off the top of my head. If you have anything to add in any section, feel free. All I ask is that everyone be fair and respectful.
     
    John3:16, Jan 10, 2017
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    I think this deserves it's own thread, because this could go on for pages
     
    Barnstable, Jan 10, 2017
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    ^^ created it. Thanks for suggestion.
     
    John3:16, Jan 10, 2017
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    Obama IMHO was the MOST OVERRATED President EVER!
     
    KRL, Jan 10, 2017
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    I'm both surprised and relieved there's no talking about the Russia/Trump documents. It's taking over social media right now and even making rounds in political circles.

    I looked into it. It's just a word document with absolutely no proof whatsoever. There's no actual sources at all.

    This is to Trump what the birth certificate was to Obama.
     
    therealdeal, Jan 11, 2017
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    Now apparently the FBI is investigating Trump, but unfortunately, I don't think I can trust what the FBIor CIA say. I'll listen, but with the expression of skeptical African baby on my face
     
    Barnstable, Jan 11, 2017
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    There's just absolutely no proof. It's wild that this is gaining this much steam when there's literally nothing of substance behind it besides "it really seems like something he'd do".
     
    therealdeal, Jan 11, 2017
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    The report said Trumps lawyer met with power players in Russia at the same time. He says he's never been to Russia, Prague and was on tour of USC at the time for his son who plays baseball (easily verifiable).

    4Chan trolled and the FBI, CIA, CNN, etc fail for it.
     
    John3:16, Jan 11, 2017
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    FWIW, Wikileaks says it's fake.
     
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    It's amazing.

    The document is literally just a word doc with some stuff written on it. There's absolutely no verifiable evidence, yet the media is running with it. It's literally fake news although I hate using that phrase.
     
    therealdeal, Jan 11, 2017
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    He should release his tax returns.
     
    Azndude2190, Jan 11, 2017
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    How dare you! The media is soooo nonpartisan lol

    Desperate times and we have 4 yrs of this crap hahaha.

    It's not Trump who will make America look bad. It's the friggin incompetent media aka whiny children who can't handle get defeated!
     
    KRL, Jan 11, 2017
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    I've quit depending upon broadcast news (Fox, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc) for awhile now, but it still amazes me how ridiculous these organizations have become.
     
    revgen, Jan 13, 2017
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    For legit news, I go to BBC America / Canada.

    Where do you guys go for news?
     
    John3:16, Jan 13, 2017
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    Speaking of the "news."

     
    John3:16, Jan 13, 2017
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    BBC America, PBS News, and The Young Turks
     
    Barnstable, Jan 13, 2017
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    He was so close to taking the higher road and then... doesn't quite get there.
     
    therealdeal, Jan 13, 2017
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    CNN and Fox are mirror images of each other. They both suck
     
    Barnstable, Jan 13, 2017
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