President Trump

He's not really Hitler at all. I'm not sticking up for him, but TIME is completely right. He is not Hitler. He's something entirely different. We've never really seen anything like him before.

 

Mobilizing National Guard units to hunt down illegal immigrants is something that sort of smells like the gestapo.

edit- Not that I think he's Hitler, but that move is eyebrow raising. I thought the visual of the military personnel combing Boston after the marathon bombing was shocking and uncomfortable as well.

 

I bring up Hitler as an example, because if we forget what happened in his case, we may allow it to happen again without even realizing before it's too late. And I stand by what I said, I see many disturbing similarities to that government. Grand speeches fueled by hate, feeding the people who are bubbling over with this hate and anger and want someone to speak to them. Getting rid of anyone in positions around him that don't agree with him or won't be yes men, bending to his insanity by enabling him. Trying to highly control the media we receive about him, very similar to propoganda techniques. And making large, seemingly crazy promises to do things that seem crazy (building the wall for starters), while people laugh and don't believe he's serious, buuut it turns out he is. This is how people like Hitler happen, when we elect crazy people in very bad times because we think they'll solve everything with their wild promises, and then they proceed to go on a rampage and we sit back and watch because it almost doesn't seem real, or we think "eh, it's not really that bad", but it is. I stand by what I said, whether it's taken as an exaggeration or not. All countries and world powers come to an end, and the people in the middle of it probably rarely recognized it happening because their world power was so powerful. I see very bad things ahead for this country because of this lunatic, I just hope it's not on a scale we can't recover from and we don't look back and ask how we let this happen.

 

I agree with this. The comparisons to Hitler are somewhat superficial. He is waging war on the media because the media is in the pockets of the politicians none of us wanted. If the winner of the election was a Democrat (heck maybe a Republican depending on which one), there wouldn't be nearly as many people desperate to make Trump look worse than he is.

NOW that's not to say Trump isn't awful. There are plenty of things he does and says that make me embarrassed he's leading the country. There are a few things that he says and does that genuinely make me nervous. However, I don't think he's Hitler. I think he's a non-politician who thought this was going to be easy and is trying to run the country like a Fortune 500 business and it's off to a rocky start.

 

Lost me after first 3 sentences.

 

Weezy, I don't know if you've read much about the ascent of Hitler, but it was really nothing like Trump's story so far.

Regarding your descriptions of Trump:

I don't really hear grand speeches from him. Fueled by hate? Hitler's rise was fueled by identifying the Jews as the ultimate source of all society's ills. I haven't heard anything even close to that from Trump so far.

I don't see him trying to control the media. Instead he simply disdains the media. The media is being controlled in large part by an agenda, but I don't think Trump has any chance of gaining any control over it. Nor do I think that he is under the delusion that he can control it. So, he is choosing to lash out at it instead.

By all accounts he is surrounding himself with strong minded individuals who have a track record of some significant accomplishments. Not exactly yes men material for the most part.

I don't personally support the Wall concept, but I'm not sure why it's a crazy idea. Many nations have built walls for their own national purposes without being labeled crazy for doing so.

I'll just disagree with your characterization of him as a lunatic. He is clearly in possession of his mental faculties. He does have radically different priorities than most politicians that we are all used to, and he most certainly has none of the sense of social decorum that most of us would expect of a President. But that doesn't make him a lunatic.

Now, all that said, I am convinced he is arrogant, entitled, self-important, driven, mean-spirited. But those qualities describe more than one president.

 

I have read a lot about Hitler, and I've seen about every history tv show they've done on him the past decade at least. But that's fine, replace Hitler with "insane dictator" and I think my point remains valid. I'm not looking forward to this presidency, I think Trump could take us to some dark places. I'm new to politics and talking politics, but these are simply my opinions, I don't get heated about it, and I can tell you're extremely level-headed as usual, TIME. I especially respect people older than me who have been there and seen and experienced much more than me, that's how I was raised, so your points are well taken. I think like with anything we just agree to disagree on certain things and that's fine. Like I said I'm not big into talking politics, I admit I don't know as much about it as the average person (for reasons I'd be happy to explain to anyone who wanted to know, maybe in pm's), I mainly just post here to vent because I don't have anywhere else to do so.

 

So now Trump has reversed the law Obama put into place to allow Trans people to choose the bathroom they identify with.

So where are all those economic and infrastructure jobs that he was supposed to create? Where are all those Exacutive Orders? So far he's been consentrating on everything but.

 

I think that should be left up to the states to decide. Well, honestly, I don't even know why it's an issue. If you look like a female, go in the female bathroom. No one will know or care.

I think that's unfair. He's been in office a month. Obama didn't have ObamaCare until 2 years and gay marriage until 6 years (really, Supreme Court did gay marriage, but it took Obama admin 6 years to get it passed). Trump said a big tax plan (change) is coming in 2 - 3 weeks. If he does that, with the killing of TPP, it'll be a successful 6 weeks.

 

He's made a ton of executive orders, and most have had nothing to do with the economy or job creation. He's had every opportunity. Instead hes trying to force through EO's on what should be a non issue like trans bathrooms.

The economy is the thing most Trump supporters say they want him to improve, and that's one of the only things I had a little hope for to get from his presidency. Even if I disagree with how he does it (which I'm sure I will), he should be doing something already.

 

^^ both pipelines will create jobs. The wall will create jobs. The DOW is at its highest since.... ever. Investors are confident in him and trust he'll get things right on the economy (the one area I'm confident too). But EO to create jobs and people actually working will take time. It's not like he signed the EO and someone started digging fence posts the next day.

 

I don't expect to see the jobs right now.

I do expect to see at least one or two EO's to create jobs out of the 12 or so EO's he's issued by now.

And I don't think any of those examples you're giving count since jobs might be a product, but it was not the point of those EO's. I want to see some action, specifically targeted at creating jobs and repairing infrastructure, and I'm seeing none.

 

Lower taxes should lead to job growth.

 

If he does it for the people that need it and not the 1%

 

^^ tax breaks for the people who need it is one good thing, but doesn't lead to job growth. Tax break for corporations does. Needs to be a combination of both.

 

A lot of corporations already pay little to no taxes. Reducing taxes for them will do nothing.