President Trump

Good choice.

 

Happy we could come to an agreement of disagreement lol. And I never like people feeling like you did, so again apologies. I wholly understand why people hate Trump, I just don’t believe they came to the conclusion organically or on their own.

You said yourself that you thought Trump was simply a clown and before his presidency, you could probably laugh off some or most of his antics, like most people, but where did the utter dislike come from? When you know more about a person that is not favorable, it’s easier to not like them and the media did a number on him; making sure he was portrayed as the most hateful person known to mankind. I mean let’s be real, he was hated more than Putin, Kim Jong Un, Bahgdadi, Soleimani, heck maybe even R. Kelly. I kid, but I don’t think it’s too far off.

I really believe if the media treated Trump like they did Obama, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. We’d probably still think he’s goofy or a clown, but we’d know about the good things he’s done and there would be a balance.

I think a lot of what he said especially on Twitter was because of how the media treated him. Maybe if they treated him well, he would’ve still been a jerk, but it’s something we’ll never know.

And yes I agree that Trump brought a lot of things on himself by saying and doing stupid things. I also admit that going after the media made it easier for them to retaliate. Interestingly enough, Trump has been critical of the media and the government for decades so he at least stayed true to himself, which can’t be said for a lot of these goofy politicians.

For what it’s worth I kinda hope, even after all the investigations, that he loses fair and square. I don’t think it would be good for this country if he won. How he “stole the election” would be on loop in the media for the next four years. These people were crazy enough during his first term, who knows what they’d be willing to do if he “took the Presidency” away from Biden.

 

haha, he already lost fair and square. it's over. biden is president-elect

only thing we need to worry about until january 20th is how much damage trump will do on his way out in order to make the transition as difficult as possible and to leave biden with an absolute mess to inherit

 

Yeah most likely, but there’s still stuff going in the courts. I’m not gonna say anything is official until it’s actually official.

 

See, here’s where the disconnect is.

You voted for Trump because you feel his policies personally benefit you or align with what you think is the best for the nation’s long term success? Sure, on paper I can wrap my head around that (the paperwork still has to check out though ... I always here this as a vague argument without many details of all these alleged great policies).

But then it never stops there. There’s still Trump worship going on. There’s still succumbing to the fearmongering rhetoric of the right. There’s an inconsistent defense of fellow Trump supporters and meanwhile a blanket demonization of the left.

Trump only the way he is because he’s retaliating against the unfair attacks of the media? Come on man. That’s a joke. He’s the same petulant man child he was before he entered politics. This is who he is. A magnetic cult of personality who has a talent for keeping his finger on the pulse of his base? Sure. But he’s not intelligent. He’s not gracious. He’s not sympathetic to the working American. Everything is about his own success and maximizing his power. This is what I see from my own eyes. This isn’t a media narrative. If anything, the media bias takes me in the reverse direction. I’m more likely to give him the benefit of the doubt when CNN claims something BECAUSE I know they’re biased against him.

He’s literally out here trying to stage a coup, sowing discord and distrust in our electoral process even in the face of a sizable loss. Having his heads of state deny reality and act like he’s won, delaying the transition of power and putting our national security at risk.

That’s not a good man pushed to the edge due to media bullying. That’s an incompetent j****** trying to copy the fascists he looks up to. (I’m sure some of you will take issue with that word as if it’s some hyperbolic attack on you, all the meanwhile “socialist” has become some of y’all most used buzz words this year). Look up fascism, look up socialism. I guarantee you Trump is more fascist than Biden is socialist.

“These people were crazy enough during his first term, who knows what they’d be willing to do if he “took the Presidency” away from Biden.”

LOL.


Y’all act like ALL Trump supporters are good, reasonable people just trying to look out for conservative values. And then y’all act like all Biden voters are radical socialists pillaging the Democratic cities that you don’t even live in...

If you can’t even admit that there is a large portion of Trump’s base that is directly energized by Trump’s racist rhetoric and actions, and now blindly going along with his stolen election claims, you’re kidding yourself.

Again, I’m not even saying whether Trump is personally a racist or not. I’m not accusing all Trump supporters of being racist. But when you fully deny that this man intentionally uses racism to stir up a base that IS comprised of a large segment of racists, that’s when I call the bluff. That’s when it goes from “well they just like some of his policies” to “Naw, they’re full stop just going along with the demagoguery and so IMO the support has crossed the line into complicity”.

 

unfortunately, trump isn't going away anytime soon. biden will look to avoid talking about him as much as possible but we all know the media will give him all the attention he craves

he's gonna spend the next 4 years tweeting about how terrible biden is, holding his ego-stroke fests, and getting his base ready for a 2024 run

 

hopefully twitter bans trump after he's out of the WH considering his countless violations of their TOS, but i doubt that happens

i think he'll 100% run in 2024. and even if he doesn't, he'll have one of his scumbag kids run instead and his base will still support them. trump is the GOP's best chance at winning in '24 because at the end of the day, he's still the head of the party and he's who the voters want. the GOP can try all they want to run a moderate like haley or rubio in '24 but when trump announces he's running, they'll be forced to embrace him or basically hand the election over to the dems. trumpism does not work without trump himself, because no one has the celebrity and charisma that he does.

of course in trump's fantasyworld, he didn't lose this election because it was "stolen" from him. so he'll never admit that he actually lost to biden

 

the apprentice was the first exposure to trump for the younger generations

but then you look into his past and see he's not quite the "savvy" billionaire he tries to come off as. philanthropy? virtally all his charitable tax deductions came from money he received for agreeing not to develop land. and of course, have we already forgotten his foundation being shut down a couple years ago after it became obvious trump was using the funds for his own gain? then of course there's getting sued by the DOJ for discriminating against black and latino tenants and the fact that he somehow managed to bankrupt his casinos (on top of a number of other failed business ventures.) i mean, his entire presidency just being one massive grift is the least shocking thing ever. trump's gonna spend these last few months in office trying to grift off as many people as possible because he knows he'll need the money for the legal battles he'll likely face in the future

if you think biden hasn't done anything in his political career, then it's obvious you're just choosing to ignore reality. you guys are pretty good at that

 

what does your picture have to do with anything i posted? were you there during the transition? obama invited trump the WH after his victory to discuss the transition, and as far was we know, there were no issues with it. the opposite can be said so far about the trump to biden transition. and with trump firing people left and right to install his own loyalists, it's pretty obvious what his plans are for the next few months

and what a shock, you ignored my point about biden's accomplishments. you know you can't speak things into existence, right?

 

I was gonna say something and then you said this: “He’s literally out here trying to stage a coup...” I stopped reading after that.

 

haha, aren't you the one who got all pissy when i posted a picture of trump with epstein and went on a little rant about how "pictures don't mean anything"?

well which is it? i thought pictures don't mean anything? aside from the fact that the picture you posted has absolutely nothing to do with the smooth obama to trump transition but hey, keep living in your little fantasyworld