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  1. sirronstuff

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    GOP is politicizing it? No way you actually believe that.

    The Democrats and the left swinging media used every opportunity they could to bash Trump. No matter what happened, whoever was in charge was in a no win situation, but the media's and Left's slanted coverage made it far worse IMHO. It was blatant and shameful. If you didn't see the same thing, I don't know what to say.

    I'm actually probably going to exit the thread and all talk of politics for awhile. All it does is divide people. Everyone wants the best for the country, but have very deep seated different beliefs on how it should be done despite lots of historical evidence that should be make it very clear. What's the point in discussing it further. At least Biden will hopefully not embarrass the country with his social media accounts.

    Hopefully he and his son keep their hands off of little girls for the next several years and he acts Presidential until they put him on the sidelines.
     
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    Kobe wouldn't have voted for Biden

    :Laugh:

    He knows crazy people in charge isn't a good thing
     
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    the dems pushed for measures to limit the spread of the virus, while the GOP and the right in general attacked them for "taking away our freedom," called the pandemic a liberal hoax, refused to wear masks, etc. not sure how anyone could say the dems were the ones who politicized it when they were the ones calling for action
     
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    :ADeyeshift:

    That's just part of the story, and that's why it's generally not worth discussing further

    Hopefully we're all immune and life goes on normally as soon as possible.
     
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    “We should take great pride in the progress that we’ve made over the last eight years. That’s the bottom line. No foreign terrorist organization has successfully planned and executed an attack on our homeland.”
    –President Obama, remarks at MacDill Air Force Base, Tampa, Fla., Dec. 6, 2016


    President Obama made valedictory remarks about his administration’s approach to counterterrorism, and one line jumped across Twitter, sparking outrage.

    Many wondered how Obama could make this claim after such high-profile terror attacks as the Dec. 2, 2015, attack in San Bernardino, in which a radicalized married couple killed 14 people and wounded 22; the Nov. 5, 2009, shooting at Foot Hood in Texas in which a radicalized U.S. Army major killed 13 people and wounded 32 others; and the Boston Marathon bombings on April 15, 2013, which killed two and wounded 132.

    The Facts
    We dug through the material in the authoritative Global Terrorism Database, maintained at the University of Maryland for the Department of Homeland Security, checking every terrorist incident recorded in the United States during Obama’s two terms. The GTD produced more than 100 incidents.
     
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    what's wrong with what obama said? he's right, no foreign terrorist organization carried out a successful attack on US soil during his presidency

    the article mentions the domestic terrorist attacks that took place under obama. yeah, there were plenty of domestic terrorist attacks. just like there have been plenty during trump's presidency. not sure why you claimed there have been "zero" terrorist attacks during trump's presidency, if we're going off this article that brought up the domestic incidents that occurred during the obama years?
     
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    What was wrong with what Obama said? Well, he was incapable of uttering "Islamic Terrorists" because he would soil his panties if he did.

    ISLAMIC terrorist attacked the US over 100 times. Pssst.... Islam is a religion, not a race or geographic location. Islamic terrorist attacked the US 100+ times under him and zero under Trump. Simple fact, but hard for Obama and his fans to swallow.

    It's okay to give Trump credit here, but I know you won't. Don't worry, I'll bump this over and over during Bidens term.
     
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    It’s kind of funny how politics makes people act like they’re 5 again. Shouldn’t make the president act that way though, I think that was definitely a major issue.

    Anyway, moving on, Trumper impression incoming



    Hmm.. quite a coincidence to announce this right after Biden becomes president elect, thus associating any good feelings of a vaccine with Biden taking over even though he hasn’t yet. Smells like a Dems conspiracy to me, those sneaky oily Dems. Oh wait, no, this is a Trump vaccine in fact, but the media will refuse to give him credit for it, they’ll name it after Dementia Joe just to spite him, sneaky old fake news, can’t trust anyone but OAN and the word of our lord and savior Trump himself, right out of his mouth only, even his tweets could be hacked. Wait, they could deepfake his live pressers too if they wanted, hmm, nothing can be trusted, nothing is safe, oh my god what is real, what if Trump is actually just cake?
     
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    newsflash: someone can be a muslim and be born/raised in america. incidents like ft. hood, san bernardino, boston, and orlando were carried out by muslims who had been either born or raised (or both) in the USA. none of those people were connected to foreign terrorist groups aside from watching their videos or pledging support for them. that's domestic terrorism. but hey, if you want to look at it that way, we can do that too

    zero islamic terror attacks under trump you said? this is going off the database in the article

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    the real threat this country faces is right-wing, domestic terrorism...or by your logic, christian terrorism. during trump's term there have been far more christian terrorist attacks than we saw under obama
     
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    Okay. And you’re entitled to everything you said and I apologize if I generalized you into a group. I only have your posts to go by and when I see you mocking people who may support Trump or who may not hate him like you do my first thought is not going to be, “hey this guy is reasonable and has conservative family and friends and is an okay guy just having a bad day or trying to make a point” I’m going to think what I already said. You expect me to read your mind and disregard your posts. That’s not realistic and you yourself don’t even do that.

    And if you’ve always hated Trump even when he was in the WWE and on his Apprentice show and in the 80s and 90s when he was on different people’s shows and in rap songs, before he ran for President then I stand corrected, but the majority of Trump haters I’ve interacted with online and in real life hate him because of what the media has said about him. They only knew about Trump prior to him running because of his Apprentice show and wrestling fans saw him clash with Vince McMahon. For black people he was in rap songs and albeit popular amongst the black community. Even if people knew/know him as a jerk and/or a creep because of his show and/or his connection with the beauty pageants, etc., the average American would not have known or researched about his business connections in foreign countries, the historic examples of his so called bigotry, racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc.

    I don’t think anyone can convince me that the media was not complicit in magnifying the hate for Trump. A lot of people hate Trump. If it stands, 74M+ people. Tell me, would that have happened the way it did if the media was honest, unbiased and didn’t hate Trump themselves? Yes Trump didn’t help it and made it easy by tweeting and saying stupid and outlandish things, but even when he did do something of value or did say something right (because newsflash no one is 100% bad/wrong just like no no one is 100% good/right) the media refused to report it. The media and Democrats were wrong about him being a warmonger and how a Trump presidency would have us on the brink of WW3; that the world would be over and that he was a dictator and a tyrant which were/are untrue. The way our government is setup, there can be no dictator or tyrant, but everyone just assumes the media knows what it’s talking about.

    Trump is the first President I can remember that hasn’t been in a senseless Middle East war or any war for that matter. For me that was worthy enough for a second term and yet the media must see that as a bad thing, since that would have been the main draw for Obama. They were upset over the Kurds situation and whether you agreed or disagreed with it, the fact that the media

    1) hates Trump and
    2) has a different worldview than the Republicans and Trump obviously.

    They weren’t gonna report that story without giving their opinion. Anyway my point was less about Trump and more about the media, which I feel is the biggest problem. If Trump is in fact gone, the media is still gonna be there.
     
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    I don’t know about this. I see us being in a war, but terrorists attacks. You mean domestic or international? I don’t think you’d be mad about being wrong though. :wasntme:
     
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    I looked at the chart and there were a variety of groups (anti-white, anti-abortion, jihadi, anti-government, white supremacist, neo-nazis, incel, anti-muslim, anarchists, muslim. etc.) It’s all happening.
     
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    I hope I am wrong.
     
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    I don’t really want to argue the media stuff too much, because we’ll simply argue in circles, I think agreeing to disagree is a better way to go. But I do thank you for apologizing for generalizing about me, I think we can argue and be civil. As I said I don’t hate anyone because of their party (I do hate actual racists and white supremacists and such, but of course that is not anywhere close to the majority of actual Trump supporters), I just dislike Trump and a lot of his camp. I’ve been an a** the past few days because it was a long time coming, and just like I’d be smug to C Bags fans if they lost I had to be the same way about Trump, but I’m past that now and just looking forward to hopefully moving forward in a more positive way.

    Regarding how lint I’ve disliked Trump though, it’s been a long time, I don’t watch wresting and I haven’t seen him in any songs or anything like that, but I did see the Apprentice and think he was a clown though. I’ve thought of him on the same level as say the Kardashians for a while now, so when he announced he was running for president I thought it was sort of a joke like when that porn actress ran for governor of California. When he was actually winning on election night I was just cracking up because I thought it was so ridiculous, but I wasn’t actually upset because I thought Hilary sucked and how bad could he be right. Wow was I wrong there, though I doubt Hilary would have been much better if better at all, probably at handling the pandemic, but not much else. But yes I’ve thought Trump was a weirdo and clown for years, couldn’t believe we got to a point where he was actually elected president of the USA, still think it’s pretty embarrassing we let things get so bad it came to that, but anyway I’m rambling, I think you get my point.

    I’ll absolutely concede as well that the media has had it out for him, and the one sided reporting has been over the top, but I’m not sure I’ve ever said different, if I gave that impression you’re right that’s on me. I think you’d have to at least agree he didn’t help his own case by waging war on them though, coining the fake news term, picking his favorites at press conferences and for TV interviews, just overall playing a real childish and petty game with the media and both sides not being able to help themselves or act like adults. I used to think our media was a little more on the serious side, but we very much turned to more tabloid style these years like the UK and their over the top headlines and questions designed to illicit a reaction rather than get actual quality responses. I can hope we will start to see a decline in that, but I doubt it, not in this world where clicks and views rule all.
     
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    You are no more fake news than those who disagree with you are deplorables. Get it?
     
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    I doubt he lives that long.
     
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    And my response is, "nah."
     
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    For what it’s worth, that’s still my battle cry. And when Biden says he wants “unity and healing”, my response is also “nah”.
     
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    Trump lost himself the election by being an arse
     
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