President Trump

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  1. Savory Griddles

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    Yes, Obama couldn't bridge the gaps very well, but there is a difference between trying and failing which is what Obama did, and intentionally trolling the other side which is what Trump is doing. I think he could probably get a little more cooperation if he just toned down his rhetoric.
     
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    Are you sure Obama tried to bridge the gap? In his own words, 'Trump will never be president' when Trump was running for president. And the Republicans tried to filibuster everything Obama did in his presidency. Again, not created by Trump. Nancy Pelosi is one nasty person in terms of her political pull. Why isn't she telling her Democratic colleagues to work with Trump? Why is it just a one-way street? It's not like Trump turned the Democratic party vs Republican party. It's dirty politics by the media hyping up issues to make Trump look awful and thus, creating all this tension. I just don't see how anyone can fault all of this on Trump. Can he do better? I agree, 100%. But I think everyone needs to do better... and that includes AOC, Nancy Pelosi, Ilhan Omar, etc., All of them need to stop acting like it's a 'my way or the high way' situation. We all know it won't stop after Trump is out of office because with technology, it's easier than ever for radicals to push their agendas and not compromise. Case in point, look at what AOC did to Amazon when Amazon wanted to come to LIC for a new HQ. Her mob of supporters protested against Amazon just because AOC kept pushing for it. No compromise, no nothing.

    Forgot to add, Obama in response to Trayon's death, "That could have been my son."

    Obama was pushing this race card before Trump ever considered running for president. I genuinely think Obama tried to work with both sides but saw how divided it was and just gave up. Trump didn't try as much to work with both sides but I think he knew deep down, it was going to be divisive. There's no coming back after they just tried to push a phony investigation and basically impeached him for political reasons.
     
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    he's accomplished quite a bit through the years. a simple google search would reveal that

    obama tried working with both sides but the GOP led by mcconnell blocked literally every single one of his judicial appointments so that they could create a conservative majority. not to mention they completely stonewalled any sort of legislation the obama administration tried to pass in his second term. so no, obama didn't "give up." the GOP badically just sabotaged his presidency the first chance they got
     
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    Absolutely amazing to me how liberals and their media are ignoring this.
     
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    probably because it's BS? even fox news wanted nothing to do with the laptop thing, and that really says a lot

    the story behind how the hard drive ended up in rudy's hands reaks of BS, not to mention rudy himself was on record the other day saying "even if the laptop story isn't accurate, americans have the right to know." yeah, nothing weird about that statement at all. when the whole laptop story broke, it was so obvious they were going to eventually claim they found child porn on it. stevie wonder saw that one coming

    this is nothing more than the desperate GOP's hail mary, and it's not gonna move the needle just like all their other past attempts to attack biden haven't moved the needle
     
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    If I'm betting on Hunter or against him, it's an easy bet for me. Dude banged his dead brothers widow. I mean, their are low life's we run into every day, but this dudes indiscretions are Biblical.
     
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    If it's so BS, the liberal media should debunk it. I personally don't believe it. But they need to address it and debunk it because it is making the rounds and no one has given any concrete evidence it's not real. People get cancelled on social media or people get #Metoo'd with zero evidence and the liberal media goes to town on those people. So if this isn't real, shouldn't they tell us why? And don't say the story is beneath looking into since they are quick to pile on someone accused of sexual assault whether there is proof or not.
     
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    A former Biden family associate spills the beans about the dirty deals the Biden family (including Joe) made with the Chinese. The press conference starts at 11:52. He's turning over documents and his phones to the FBI.
     
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    why would they give legitimacy to something that is nothing more than an attempt to throw sh*t at the wall and see if it sticks? that's been the GOP's gameplan this entire election

    first the ukraine thing didn't work, so now its "hunter biden is a pedo." this is literally on the same level as that pizzagate stuff
     
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    They seem to be selectively using the "legitimacy" excuse and when they apply that criteria though. They have reported on other stuff that was sketchy as all hell. As I said in my post, "And don't say the story is beneath looking into since they are quick to pile on someone accused of sexual assault whether there is proof or not." They seem to want to pick and choose what is worth their time depending on the politics of it. Jussie Smollett ring a bell? That was fishy from the get-go, yet they were ready to jump head first into that.

    I don't believe the Biden stuff is true. I really don't. But the fact that the liberal media is outright ignoring it makes me wonder if there is something there.
     
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    fox news wanted nothing to do with it either, what does that tell you?

    and let's say the biden camp did come out and deny everything, you think the magas would say "well ok they denied it, we believe him." haha yeah f*cking right. they simply have zero reason to bring any sort of legitimacy to this BS. tomorrow the GOP will probably say hunter biden had pictures of dead bodies on the laptop, so he needs to be investigated for murder
     
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    I may get some heat for this but I feel very strongly about this.

    The way the media is covering Trump with a certain one sided narrative is similar to how Kobe had BSPN/other media outlets going against him in his prime years (Can't pass the ball, doesn't make teammates better, not a winner, not a leader, selfish, favoring Shaq over him, rape allegations.. etc etc.). Such a shame that he ended up with only 1 MVP

    Both Trump and Kobe are incredibly flawed people with moral failures....but they have evolved and matured as they continued on with their leadership roles. I see the media did not give them a fair shake because of their personality and because they didn't like them. Because they didn't suck up to the media I can tell their accomplishments and results are being dismissed (not now for Kobe after he retired/passed but during his prime playing/championship days). Lots of stories that are clickbait worthy with half truths and exaggerations were written out there to paint a certain image of them. Both are a-holes but thats how a leader of a ship is supposed to be.

    But when you're at the top of your respective trades, getting this kind of coverage is part of the package of being No.1, so I'm sure they understood that.

    I hope people vote while evaluating policy rather than personality.
     
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    I think if he weren’t so abrasive from the beginning he might not be treated as badly, but since George Bush Jr it seems to me the liberals have steadily grown less tolerant and more aggressive in their trashing of the opposition.
     
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    I think the Rs/Conservatives can be more graceful in their dealings with the opposition. Both sides have lot to improve upon.
     
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    That’s being kind for sure
     
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    I love how I asked you to name some of his accomplishments and you just tell me to Google it. I'm not asking for a laundry list of items. They should come instinctively to you if you actually knew what his accomplishments are. Sadly, it looks like you're just deflecting and have no clue what Joe has done.
     
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    so the accomplishments of every politician should come instinctively to everyone who is interested in politics?

    if you want to know what he's done in his political career, look it up yourself. that's how we inform ourselves about candidates, by doing our own research and not relying on what others tell us
     
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